"Auslandseinsatz"

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Nor is one qualified to make authoritative judgements because they once read The Idiots Guide to Dentistry, and I at least have my families experience, and that of my friends, and my students and many, many others to go by.

"Students". And "many others". That certainly qualifies for a representative sample of the total population of war-experienced ex-combatants that is to be assessed on the matter of PTSD.

August, you are simply unknowing on certain methodological topics, you illustrate that all the time in this thread. That alone would not be anything to be criticised, not everybody know evewrtyhiong and has learned everything. But you even boast with your naivety and make your knowledge gap appear as a glorious virtue and claim that your precious personal view proves all data wrong that you do not like, no matter how empirically overhwhelming and methodologically robust it may be in case of many of such researches done. You simply ignore it, intentionally, which also is a common habit of yours when getting locked in a thread. Professional experience of doctors and therapists havign worked in this field, having had access to according ammounts od patient's files and biograohic datasets - all not needed, all relevant, becasue you already know it all better, due to your uncles and students and 15 million others that you do not know at all and never talked to. I think I must not further explain why I find this absurd, or must I?

Damn, I got a stiff neck from always needing to look up to your monumentally elevated position from which you see it all so much better. Well, readers here are not stupid and can judge themselves who has the more qualified and numerically stronger fundament for his opinion forming on this matter, so no need for me to stay around in here forever.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

so no need for me to stay around in here forever.

Nobody is holding you back. Get your nose out of Der Speigel and your butt out of your mom's basement, go out in the world and start interacting with real human beings. You might learn a thing or two not covered by your books.

Oh, do we have to get personal because we are out of valid arguments now, August?

[August]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Oh, do we have to get personal because we are out of valid arguments now, August?

Or maybe that one can be nice for only so long in the face of breathtaking obtuseness. Like I told you in my last reply to you (which you ignored): "...if you'll look back in the thread you'll see that Skybirds original premise was that thereis never a happy ending from war. I think I have amply proven that this is not the case."

Now you can agree or disagree or even continue to ignore but it's not my fault if your pal refuses to see reality.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Oh, do we have to get personal because we are out of valid arguments now, August?

Don't worry, didn't I told you August and me are old pals? For him it is quite normal to become personal when he has run our of arguments and has no grounds to turn to. Just step aside when now he may start to throw mud at you too, since you had no stakes in this confrontation: it is not about you. It's a many years old antipathy between August and me, so, so better just stay out.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Don't worry, didn't I told you August and me are old pals?

No we're not old pals. I once called you that and you got all fake outraged like you always do when people don't accept your judgements and pronouncements.

For him it is quite normal to become personal when he has run our of arguments and has no grounds to turn to.

No, when I repeat myself several times and you still continue to ignore what i'm saying then I might get a little testy but don't mistake that for running out of arguments. You haven't dis-proven my first one yet nor will you.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

No we're not old pals. I once called you that and you got all fake outraged like you always do when people don't accept your judgements and pronouncements.



No, when I repeat myself several times and you still continue to ignore what i'm saying then I might get a little testy but don't mistake that for running out of arguments. You haven't dis-proven my first one yet nor will you.

What is so striking about you is that you accuse others of what you in fact practice yourself.

It's called projecting what you do. That is a psychoanalytical defence-mechanism by which people keep reality away from themselves, and make others responsible for their own deficits.

Most people in this forum are not dumb. You may be able to deceive yourself about the limited range of your claims. But many people reading in here are quite aware of what I said, and what you said, and how it compares.

[August]

Originally Posted by Skybird

What is so striking about you is that you accuse others of what you in fact practice yourself.

It's called projecting what you do. That is a psychoanalytical defence-mechanism by which people keep reality away from themselves, and make others responsible for their own deficits.

Most people in this forum are not dumb. You may be able to deceive yourself about the limited range of your claims. But many people reading in here are quite aware of what I said, and what you said, and how it compares.

So when you oh so self righteously claim that there can never, ever be a happy ending from war then you post statistics that you admit claim only a relatively small percentage of vets ever experience problems that's just me projecting?

Personally the only one getting defensive here is you, like you always do when people don't accept you as the unimpeachable expert in all things that you think you are.