Ministers reach referendum deal

[Herr_Pete]

Alex Salmond is a baked potato! we can't trust him!

The SNP are nothing without him. The trade is still open chaps! Salmond for Cameron.

[mapuc]

Back on track

Can Scotland be without England and can England be without Scotland?

Markus

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Back on track

Can Scotland be without England and can England be without Scotland?

Markus

The hardliners on both sides would say yes.

In reality, I, personally, think NO! Especially not with the economy in the shape it is now - we've more important things to worry about, TBH.

BBC Scotland had set of street interviews on the news last night and the main thing that comes across from them, and people I know, is we want FACTS, ALL of them, not rhetoric, before we vote.

As an aside, apparently, the Welsh First Minister isn't a happy bunny. He doesn't support the idea of an independent Scotland. He believes it would cause an imbalance in Westminster that would cause problems for Wales. The assembly in Northern Ireland is also watching closely, although, ironically, Sinn Fein are trying distance themselves saying don't get involved!

I've always believed that all parts of the UK should have devolution. That means a new ENGLISH parliament, completely separate from Westminster, for purely ENGLISH affairs. Leave Westminster as a purely federal body, akin to how Australia and Canada are set up? It also cures the problem of Scottish MPs being able to vote on affairs in England & Wales, whilst their English and Welsh counterparts are unable to do so for matters in Scotland.

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

I still honestly can't see Scotland breaking away.

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I still honestly can't see Scotland breaking away.

I don't think it will, Jim - it's a baaaad idea.

Mike.

[mapuc]

Even though I do not know the Scottish people, I do know that they aren't different from other people around the world

When it comes to sport and the patriotism to the persons country, state or area, a person thinks with his heart

Markus

[Herr_Pete]

I don't think the Union will break but what I am seriously worried about is 16-17 year olds getting the vote as this for me is what could swing it in his favour. All he would have to do is have Braveheart on the TV for the entire day before the election and he would have the vast majority of the teen on his side.

but I agree that we want to see the facts. I have biased bull**** from the SNP and I have biased bull**** from Westminister and you simply can't trust any of the figures.

Keep the Union!!

[Penguin]

As we see similar happening in Spain, where Catalonia also wants to opt out, I wonder how much it also has to do with the current state of the EU. The tensions with London/Madrid have certainly always been there, but I ask myself how much animosities against Brussels also play a role.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr_Pete

I don't think the Union will break but what I am seriously worried about is 16-17 year olds getting the vote as this for me is what could swing it in his favour. All he would have to do is have Braveheart on the TV for the entire day before the election and he would have the vast majority of the teen on his side.

but I agree that we want to see the facts. I have biased bull**** from the SNP and I have biased bull**** from Westminister and you simply can't trust any of the figures.

Keep the Union!!

That is precisely why he wants the younger generation to vote...they don't remember the benefits that both countries have shared in the past.

[Jimbuna]

The crazy talk continues....the SNP have voted to join the nuclear-based military Alliance NATO but have also vowed to bar nuclear weapons from its territory, should it gain independence.

Time to rebuild Hadrians Wall ten times higher than it was initially and ignore any pleas for help when the north is invaded

The leader of the SNP has said that if his party won power in an independent government it would make nuclear weapons illegal.
Alex Salmond told the BBC's Andrew Marr Show that Trident, which currently resides at Faslane Naval base on the Clyde, would have to go.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-20020839

[Herr-Berbunch]

More jobs for the English folk

Hopefully I can convince the missus to holiday on the West Coast and/or the Caledonian Canal before we need passports.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

More jobs for the English folk

Hopefully I can convince the missus to holiday on the West Coast and/or the Caledonian Canal before we need passports.

I'm wondering if both sides will continue to accept each others banknotes or if Scotland would adopt that funny Euro currency everyone seems so intent on getting rid of.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm wondering if both sides will continue to accept each others banknotes or if Scotland would adopt that funny Euro currency everyone seems so intent on getting rid of.

I'm sure that's Big Al's intention, to join the Euro, so the rest of the continent can dig them out of the big financial hole he wants to dig.

Why don't the English get a vote?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

I'm sure that's Big Al's intention, to join the Euro, so the rest of the continent can dig them out of the big financial hole he wants to dig.

Why don't the English get a vote?

The only vote the English need is to affirm how much of the national/union debt the SNP will have to pick up on leaving, should they win their reforendum.

I sincerely hope the daft buggas don't think they'll be leaving with a clean slate

[geetrue]

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...ndence-from-uk

Remember September: Scotland sets date to vote on independence from UK

Vote set for September ... article says 30% for and 50% against, but that could change you know