Can we be sure the world's population will stop rising?

Shortages of necessities havent stopped reproduction in many places, such as the less fortunate areas of Africa and Southeast Asia. People there seem to still be reproducing regardless. Unfortunately people dont seem to care whether or not they actually have the ability to care for a child and the whole family suffers as a result. We cant support this kind of reproduction. 10 billion people would take this planet to unknown stretching points. And as time goes on, Population only booms faster

Try the link Oberon provided.
Shortages don't stop it

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Try the link Oberon provided.
Shortages don't stop it

More likely they increase it.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Try the link Oberon provided.
Shortages don't stop it

....Not yet they dont. But when it gets so bad that most kids dont live long enough to have kids? .....'The unknown stretching point' suggests that it can and will get much worse than mere 'shortages' what about total deprevation and resource wars?
If what we have now is clearly unstustainable, then its obviously not going to be able to continue for and another century or two is it? we have to change it.
Population growing + Enviroment deteriorating = forced decline in the end.
Mankind cant continue to 'live for the now' as though infanite growth is sustainable. if we are going to continue to embrace greed and irresponsiblity, we will get whats coming to us eventually.

I like what Oberons swedish guy is saying, but one of the biggest questions I have with it -is; How will the enviroment be able to cope with 10 billion + living by near western standards (even if we go green). Food production/consumption alone would be a huge challenge. The way the economic situation is deteriorating now, there is no way we are going to end poverty in time to level off at 9 billion.
The entire global economic model would need to be redesigned in order to accomplish what he is suggesting.
Over consumption and waste would have to be brought under control. And the 'continous growth' model of the 20th centrury - scrapped.

[Aviv]

Interesting topic. What I find unusual is that in the time of my grandparents (c.1930- less than 100 years ago) the world population was around 2 billion. In the time of my parents (c.1960) it had risen just to 3 billion. In the time of my life (c. 1990) the world population has shot up to between 5 and 6 billion. And now in 2012 we have a world population of over 7 billion. If the number of people can rise from 2 billion to over 7 billion in less than 100 years, I expect that it will not stop, but rather increase at a faster rate.

Another worry is that the rates of birth in places like China, India and Africa, who already have very high populations is continuing to increase, while in Europe and America it is stagnating, because of the number of children of each parents.

I often think what will the world be like for my children (when I have them). Think about how things were 50 years ago to us today, how things can change so much.

[Oberon]

There is a theory on Peak Child, in that eventually the number of children being born will level out, I hope that this is the case, because unsustainable growth is...by its name...unsustainable.

Here's another of Hans Rosling and his statistics:

[the_tyrant]

With enough political will, population control can work.

Now the population growth hotspot is not Africa, sure population growth is high, but low life expectancy is keeping it in check. India on the other hand, is a country with a rapidly increasing population, and a rapidly increasing life expectancy.

If the indian government doesn't enact strict population control measures, it will spiral out of control.

[JU_88]

Another reason why nations need to watch their immigration intake carefully too in the future.
I got not nothing against immigrants, many of them are honest people just looking for opportunity, nothing wrong with that

But I hope that when we hit 9 billion or so, nations who have their population numbers under control do not continue to absorb populations which overexpand.
1) Because it spreads a lower the standard of living to those who learned to use contraception once while
2) It gives counties that over expand some room to continue to do so with out tackling the problem or facing the consequences for it.

Its irresponsible and is detremental to the whole of mankind not just one country.
Plus if the standard of living can be rasied in poorer countries, people will have much less of a reason to immigrate in the first place..

[Skybird]

World's population growing more than projected - could be true or not, but in the long range it will dramatically collapse, most likely by very unpleasant ways.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Skybird

World's population growing more than projected - could be true or not, but in the long range it will dramatically collapse, most likely by very unpleasant ways.

Could happen that way, we can only hope not. - the sad part, is that it is well within everyones indervidual power to avoid that situation

Trouble is woman have maternal instinct and men want to get laid 24/7. Same for any speices - all will over breed given the chance, the only advantage humans have is 2 methods to control it.

1) WMDs
2) Contraception and material distractions

[Skybird]

3.) Epidemics
4.) Mass starvation
5.) Natural disaster due to erosion and environmental effects coming from over-exploitation of naturaöl habitats.
6.) Cosmic disaster (meteor impact, radiation front hitting Earth)
7.) Geologic disaster (Yosemite super volcano for example)

Life is more fragile and uncertain than you might imagine, JU-88.

[mapuc]

In videos on youtube, there's a lot about minimize the population. According to the believes the elites are planning a worldwide military operations that would cut the populations to 500.000
(yes that's a conspiracy too)

Markus

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by mapuc

In videos on youtube, there's a lot about minimize the population. According to the believes the elites are planning a worldwide military operations that would cut the populations to 500.000
(yes that's a conspiracy too)

Markus

Yes its very ammusing, the latest theory was that this operation was supposed to kick off as a false flag event during the opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics, but of course, like all their predictions it didnt happen. And reason is that the illumunati 'changed there plans' (again) because people 'spread the word' on the internet.
You see, despite all their money, power and influence, the illuminati are hopeless at keeping secrets, they are so smug about their evil plans that they just have to tell their friends, who tells their neighbours, who tells their dogs, who tells Alex Jones .....and before you know it - wham! their evil secret plans are in a youtube video with 500,000 views.
At which point the elite shake their fists in the air and curse:
"Damn you internet conspiricy theorists with your youtube and your scary matrix theme tune music, damn you for spreading the word.. again, you've ruined our NWO plans.....again!"
But of couse, I am just fluoride drinking, chemtrail sniffing reptilian sheep.... so what do I know?

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Yes its very ammusing, the latest theory was that this operation was supposed to kick off as a false flag event during the opening ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics, but of course, like all their predictions it didnt happen. And reason is that the illumunati 'changed there plans' (again) because people 'spread the word' on the internet.
You see, despite all their money, power and influence, the illuminati are hopeless at keeping secrets, they are so smug about their evil plans that they just have to tell their friends, who tells their neighbours, who tells their dogs, who tells Alex Jones .....and before you know it - wham! their evil secret plans are in a youtube video with 500,000 views.
At which point the elite shake their fists in the air and curse:
"Damn you internet conspiricy theorists with your youtube and your scary matrix theme tune music, damn you for spreading the word.. again, you've ruined our NWO plans.....again!"
But of couse, I am just fluoride drinking, chemtrail sniffing reptilian sheep.... so what do I know?