Aerofly FS 2013

[Herr-Berbunch]

Avionics: you check the six main instruments and the throttle settings, but no complex avionic handling, no radio, no traffic, no system depth.

One up for this over M$ Flight then.

Another one, support for TIR.

Another one, still going.

Edit: Steam release due soon.

[Skybird]

To make this one clear: this package does not compare to the quite advanced physics you find in for example the Realair Marchetti SF260 and other high quality addons for for FS, and it is no Carendo Chessna and No Digital Aviation Cheyenne, and it is also Condor Soaring or DCS A-10, no PMDG 737NGX either. The pedals for example produce more roll than pitch and feel more like using the stick's side-movement. Ther Hornet can go on afterburner forever and reaching hilarious speeds - forever. No fuel management. This is for fun, and for sightseeing, and for easy access, and for eye-candy. This - not more, not less, nothing different.

If you think that MS FS in principle doe snot deliver complexity and realism, you should try some of the addons I listed, Berbunch. There is a reason why since many years I have never used a default MS plane in FS, but spend money on buying addon stuff. Worlds apart.

[Herr-Berbunch]

MS FS in principle doe snot deliver complexity

Firstly, I'd like to point out that your keyboard has failed to deliver the correct space again.

Secondly, I was referring to Flight, not Flight Simulator! A distinct difference, I'm sure you'll agree?

However the similarities with Aerofly FS and Flight (not Simulator) are right there (at least to a bystander) -

Few aircraft (at this time).
Hawaii v Switzerland (about 4x greater area).
Basic instrumentation and handling.
Fun.

I was in no way slighting FSX addons, I have many paid-for addons myself including Switzerland Pro-X (a by-product of the days when I had money to burn! ), although I've never plumped for any PDMG offering, and that Swiss Pro-X is probably the reason I won't buy Aerofly FS in the foreseeable.

[Skybird]

Ooooh, Flight, yes - I already had cleaned that off the table of my mind...

Maybe Aerofly is kind of Flight, but if it is , then it is the better looking one.

My keyboard works technically fine, btw. The problem is the naked monkey sitting in front of it.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Aerofly FS is now available on Steam, and I considered watching for a Steam sale to maybe get it cheap, but then I read this -

FSX fans will find certain characteristics of Aerofly FS to be lacking. For example, the engine stays in “on status,” there are no switches that can be clicked in the cockpit, there are no landing lights, there are no navigation aids, and, while the weather can be modified, the maximum cloud coverage is 3/8.
In addition, it does not have any Artificial Intelligence aircraft so the airport seems a little empty. In fact, there's no ATC system at all. Pilots cannot start from a ramp, and there are no audio feedback triggers from adjusting flaps or the gear lever. Some flight dynamics are inaccurate. For example, spinning is not very accurate, nor is near stall.
There are no sloped runways, no rudder for turning, and no multiplayer gaming. As result of its weak areas, Aerofly FS is not considered a full substitute for more developed and entrenched flight simulators.

Maybe a couple of those things wouldn't be so bad, but all of them together rule it out for me. If Ikarus can sort them out then one day I'll reconsider, but until then I'll stick with what I've got.

[greenjewel]

Hello I just bought this on steam; and my reaction to the game is not quite as optimistic as yours op. First of all I started the game after install with expert mode on. I can't put the fighter jet into a spin. I can fly straight up and not stall. I can land on lakes; rivers; hills; I haven't tried mountains. I can fly 5 feet above ground upside down(steam gave me a sticker). When I try to exit the atmosphere and look back down everything does look very impressive. Wherever you are there's no hint of airflow over the wings; no matter what stunts you pull. The wings do flex.... If you look at the engines of the jet fighter from behind randomly the engines turn off (visually not physically). I would like to get a refund; but I don't believe steam will give refund based off of user experience They sell it as realistic flight simulator and I can land any plane on water and take off again! Oh! With or without landing gear!

[Herr-Berbunch]

Welcome aboard

Thank you for confirming my decision, but I'm sorry you're not enjoying it. What other sims have you got?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by greenjewel

Hello I just bought this on steam; and my reaction to the game is not quite as optimistic as yours op. First of all I started the game after install with expert mode on. I can't put the fighter jet into a spin. I can fly straight up and not stall. I can land on lakes; rivers; hills; I haven't tried mountains. I can fly 5 feet above ground upside down(steam gave me a sticker). When I try to exit the atmosphere and look back down everything does look very impressive. Wherever you are there's no hint of airflow over the wings; no matter what stunts you pull. The wings do flex.... If you look at the engines of the jet fighter from behind randomly the engines turn off (visually not physically). I would like to get a refund; but I don't believe steam will give refund based off of user experience They sell it as realistic flight simulator and I can land any plane on water and take off again! Oh! With or without landing gear!

Well, I kind of cautioned of the limited realism. The basic physics are there, not more, and the world is about looks, not functionality. This whole thing really only is about taking the plane out for a walk and watching the daylight landscape. In this it performs very well.

I told you so! Twice! (post #3, too)

Take it for what it is. You can have fun with it if you do, and can learn about Switzerland . But if you insist on your expectations being different, then you will recall it as a waste of money, which would be sad. that bad it simply is not.

I also saw that Steam sells the full package with 8 instead 4 planes, and for 40 bucks. Well, that much it wouldn't have been worth for me, too, probably. As I said, the special edition "2013" that I got, regularly costs 30 Euro, and I got it for the half. Originally the thing costed 65 dollars, thats why I did not go after it earlier this year.

I agree though that it is a bit rich that they promote this as the most realistic flight simulator". The most realistic VFR looks - that would have been correct. But again, I told about the basic physics only, and limited options.