Eight held in US over 'Russian hi-tech smuggling plot'

geetrue · 10-05-12, 12:58 PM

This is bigger than it looks ... like the border wars say they only catch 10% of the illegals crossing.

I wonder what it is on spies???

Right there in Neal's back yard too

Gerald · 10-05-12, 01:06 PM

^Do you think we can get a statement by Neal,

Herr-Berbunch · 10-05-12, 01:20 PM

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Rather than knee-jerk 'hang them'.

Catfish · 10-05-12, 02:11 PM

Maybe it is more about 'normal crime' than working as russian agents, we will see.

On the other hand:
" [...] The US keeps strict controls on the export of cutting-edge microelectronics, which could be used in radar and surveillance systems, weapons guidance systems and detonation triggers [...]"

I thought most of this stuff is meanwhile produced in China, and sent to the US ?

http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/05/2...-military-chip

http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-...hut-off-2011-6

Although a lot of chips used in the US military is indeed produced in China, i guess the "disarming" capabality is nonsense, apart of rendering the devices itself useless because of sheer failing of some of the chinese chips.

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

Gerald · 10-06-12, 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Rather than knee-jerk 'hang them'.

At all times,

Jimbuna · 10-06-12, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geetrue

This is bigger than it looks ... like the border wars say they only catch 10% of the illegals crossing.

I wonder what it is on spies???

Right there in Neal's back yard too

Anyone seen or heard from Neal lately?

kraznyi_oktjabr · 10-06-12, 03:07 PM

Nice. China and Russia get American technology as they use "creative" methods to obtain it. At same time U.S. ally Canada has troubles in obtaining it legally because of ITAR rules.

As consequence the Royal Canadian Navy is updating its vessels with as much ITAR-free equipment as possible.

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Rather than knee-jerk 'hang them'. __________________

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kraznyi_oktjabr Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Republiken Finland Posts: 1,803 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Nice. China and Russia get American technology as they use "creative" methods to obtain it. At same time U.S. ally Canada has troubles in obtaining it legally because of ITAR rules. As consequence the Royal Canadian Navy is updating its vessels with as much ITAR-free equipment as possible. __________________ You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic. - Dr. House

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,800 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Maybe it is more about 'normal crime' than working as russian agents, we will see. On the other hand: " [...] The US keeps strict controls on the export of cutting-edge microelectronics, which could be used in radar and surveillance systems, weapons guidance systems and detonation triggers [...]" I thought most of this stuff is meanwhile produced in China, and sent to the US ? http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/05/2...-military-chip http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-...hut-off-2011-6 Although a lot of chips used in the US military is indeed produced in China, i guess the "disarming" capabality is nonsense, apart of rendering the devices itself useless because of sheer failing of some of the chinese chips. Thanks and greetings, Catfish