Ahmadinejad's cameraman defects

joea · 10-05-12, 06:00 AM

Ok I disagree strongly with some of what Alex says-but gotta jump to his defence here. I think what he is trying to say here is very simple.

Question everything you read/watch about other countries/cultures and especially what our political leaders say. Second that other nations have a right to organise their society in ways that might not meet our approval-we have a right to voice our dislike of it of course just as they do of ours-but just make sure it is based on objective facts as much as possible and be aware of other viewpoints. Gosh look at the number of times our American friends get justifiably irritated by foreign criticism especially when it is based on ignorance. That does not mean one is above criticism surely, just those based on stereotypes.

As for the threat from Iran, well my view is there is a lot of blame to go around. They support terrorism? Well so does the West. Iran has invaded zero countries in the last 30 years. How about the US? Iranian rhetoric disgusts me sometimes-but so does the extreme anti-muslim bigotry I've seen here and elsewhere. Finally let's recall that a lot of the mess the Middle East is in today is thanks to what France (yes France too), the UK and the US have done over the last century.

10-05-12, 06:23 AM

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I think what he is trying to say here is very simple.

Question everything you read/watch about other countries/cultures and especially what our political leaders say.

No, what he is saying is america is evil and the jews run everything, so they are wrong and everything america or the media says is an american/ jewish lie.
It is fine to question everything, but if you are questioning everything from a fixed and immovable yet crazy viewpoint you are not actually questioning anything at all.
Apart from all that in relation to your attempt at defending that poster you make good points, but in this incident they simply do not come into play

HunterICX · 10-08-12, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by joea

As for the threat from Iran, well my view is there is a lot of blame to go around. They support terrorism? Well so does the West. Iran has invaded zero countries in the last 30 years. How about the US? Iranian rhetoric disgusts me sometimes-but so does the extreme anti-muslim bigotry I've seen here and elsewhere. Finally let's recall that a lot of the mess the Middle East is in today is thanks to what France (yes France too), the UK and the US have done over the last century.

Well put sir, pretty much the same as how I see it.

HunterICX

10-05-12, 06:00 AM	#1
joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Ok I disagree strongly with some of what Alex says-but gotta jump to his defence here. I think what he is trying to say here is very simple. Question everything you read/watch about other countries/cultures and especially what our political leaders say. Second that other nations have a right to organise their society in ways that might not meet our approval-we have a right to voice our dislike of it of course just as they do of ours-but just make sure it is based on objective facts as much as possible and be aware of other viewpoints. Gosh look at the number of times our American friends get justifiably irritated by foreign criticism especially when it is based on ignorance. That does not mean one is above criticism surely, just those based on stereotypes. As for the threat from Iran, well my view is there is a lot of blame to go around. They support terrorism? Well so does the West. Iran has invaded zero countries in the last 30 years. How about the US? Iranian rhetoric disgusts me sometimes-but so does the extreme anti-muslim bigotry I've seen here and elsewhere. Finally let's recall that a lot of the mess the Middle East is in today is thanks to what France (yes France too), the UK and the US have done over the last century.