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Der Alte
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In the 50's all you had to do was cower under a table, and you were safe! Bert the turtle says so! I believe Bert. I even walk around with a lead turtle shell, just in case. Damned Ruskies gonna get me...
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Lucky Jack
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Over here, you had to take the door off its hinges, fill up pillowcases with sand, fill up your bath-tub with water and cover it, put the door against the wall and put the pillow case sand-bags against it so you have enough room to crawl underneath it, get necessary food supplies, paint your windows white, take down your curtains, and get a bucket for waste...all in four minutes. ![]() I think most people would have just got as drunk as they could in four minutes... ![]() |
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Der Alte
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Sounds like you guys had more of a chance. ![]() I hope one day we can look back at how we act today in response to percieved threats, and laugh at it like we laugh at the cold war percieved threats. All jokes aside, nuclear is the future, as long as corners are not cut. Which requires energy being nationalized. So it is driven by the needs of the country, and not the shareholder, who seek profits at all costs, despite safe operation, and paying for maintainance. Most of these places (3 mile Island) would rather pay to make it (regulators) go away, than actually fix things. Then you get shutdowns, and leaks. I am within nuking distance of Oyster Creek Nuclear plant, and they run that place like a Bodega. I advocate nuclear, but not ran by private industry, I am sorry, profits and stock prices have always been over safety It is no wonder the treehuggers hate it. Or we can make it so energy companies are banned from stock exchanges. That would make them serve the customer, and not the select few shareholders. My ideas may suck, but I am at least offering solutions.
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![]() Still, at the end of the day it'd all be immaterial, just like the question of 'who fired first' ![]() I hope one day we can look back and laugh too, but there's so much hatred around these days...one wonders. Anyway, getting back to nuclear power, I'm fully in agreement with you, NPPs should not be run for profit, nor should they be made to operate on a shoestring budget, but alas...try getting any government to leave the funding of something alone...they'll always try to cut things back here and there, just like the private sector, only they're not quite as obvious about it as they do it in smaller amounts. It's just the society we're in, to live we need money, we need to live to get money, it's a vicious circle we're all trapped in. ![]() ![]() |
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Lucky Jack
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Unless you were near the coast in which case you'd probably only have enough time to get outside and wonder why there are five suns. |
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Der Alte
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He most likely had enough time to wonder what the flash was before he was vaporized. He might have seen his beer blow off the table from the initial shockwave. But not see much after that. ![]()
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Navy Seal
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![]() Unless Ivan managed to penetrate Lake Ontario. ![]() If Iraq could pull that off the Russians must have too... ![]() |
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Lucky Jack
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![]() In regards to Fukushima, well, it and Chernobyl share a lot in the fact that in order for it to happen, every single thing that could go wrong, went wrong. There was also the question of incompetent management, particularly in TEPCO, who brought in western experts to get ideas from them about how to increase the reactors safety...and then ignored most of what the experts said. Thus the whole distribution point for the reactor systems was routed through a point which was if not on sea level then damn near it. Once the sea walls were breached, well, that was that. Not that I think that our designs in Europe are perfect, certainly there are a lot of things that could go wrong with our reactors, but like Chernobyl, they'd ALL have to go wrong at the same time for any major release of radiation. Smaller releases of radiation...yeah...they happen a lot, too often IMHO, but they've got monitoring stations on their monitoring stations so aside from standard laziness and incompetence most of these leaks are picked up on quickly and dealt with. Most of the time: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...e-nuclearpower Still, you can't spend all of your time worrying about it, particularly when you see it nearly every day. I once did spend all my time worrying about it...didn't do me any good. ![]() |
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