US military death toll in Afghanistan reaches 2,000

nikimcbee · 09-30-12, 08:37 AM

Is it just me, or has this thing been a whole waste time\money\life?

What do we have to show for this whole operation?

Jimbuna · 09-30-12, 08:45 AM

In terms of Afghanistan...2000 deaths

joea · 10-01-12, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

In terms of Afghanistan...2000 deaths

Yup and how many Afghan deaths?? Lots of civilians caught in the crossfire, collateral damage from both sides-yes the Taliban have targeted civilians too-not just collaborators btw. A lot of our lost freedoms too can be traced to this damn "war on terror". I am wondering of they would not have been better off under a communist government.

No I'm serious.

JU_88 · 10-01-12, 05:15 AM

Yep, Patriot act, NDA, Sending thousands of troops to fight overseas and spending trillions of dollars is how you expand a government and geo political empire, its not how you beat terrorists, if anything its just playing right in to their hands, if the objective of 9/11 was to lure America to war in the middle east -then by golly they got two for the price of one!

Abit of tighter airport security IS ALL that was needed to prevent 9/11. No box cutters? No problem! And Killing the mastermind(s) is ALL that was needed to avenge it. the rest is just complete and utter nonsense.
Our goverments know exactly what they are doing here, and I dont think it quite matches the glowing perception that is often sold to us.
Make no mistake, terrorists are not the only ones who know how to play dirty, compared to us they are just amateurs, we know how to get what we want and look good while doing it.

JU_88 · 10-01-12, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Is it just me, or has this thing been a whole waste time\money\life?

What do we have to show for this whole operation?

Its not you, can some one remind me while we are still there? And dont say 9/11 or terrorism, that was the reason in 2002 not 2012. And dont say we prevented another 9/11 by being there, because we could have done that by be being smart and staying at home. 2000 soldiers lives is not worth the trade off anyway.

joea · 10-01-12, 05:33 AM

Another thing, so many of the NATO states in Afghanistan are also suffering from economic problems-can we really afford these useless operations that don't buy us more security?

Platapus · 10-01-12, 05:21 PM

So, look into the eyes of a Mother and Father and tell them that their son/daughter was killed in AF.

When they ask you why, what would be the answer?

That should be the decision point for taking military action: Could you justify the death of a son/daughter to the face of the parents?

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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Is it just me, or has this thing been a whole waste time\money\life? What do we have to show for this whole operation? __________________

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,788 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	In terms of Afghanistan...2000 deaths __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,811 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Yep, Patriot act, NDA, Sending thousands of troops to fight overseas and spending trillions of dollars is how you expand a government and geo political empire, its not how you beat terrorists, if anything its just playing right in to their hands, if the objective of 9/11 was to lure America to war in the middle east -then by golly they got two for the price of one! Abit of tighter airport security IS ALL that was needed to prevent 9/11. No box cutters? No problem! And Killing the mastermind(s) is ALL that was needed to avenge it. the rest is just complete and utter nonsense. Our goverments know exactly what they are doing here, and I dont think it quite matches the glowing perception that is often sold to us. Make no mistake, terrorists are not the only ones who know how to play dirty, compared to us they are just amateurs, we know how to get what we want and look good while doing it. Last edited by JU_88; 10-01-12 at 06:07 AM.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,388 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	So, look into the eyes of a Mother and Father and tell them that their son/daughter was killed in AF. When they ask you why, what would be the answer? That should be the decision point for taking military action: Could you justify the death of a son/daughter to the face of the parents? __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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joea Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: At periscope depth in Lake Geneva Posts: 3,512 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Another thing, so many of the NATO states in Afghanistan are also suffering from economic problems-can we really afford these useless operations that don't buy us more security?