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Old 09-27-12, 02:36 PM   #121
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Our school used fundraising from overpriced candybars. They actually gave kids a box of candy to sell on the honor system.

I had to sell some as a football booster.

I had my girlfriend at the time do it, because people would buy from a blonde with big boobs, rather than a somewhat undersized free safety.
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Old 09-27-12, 02:39 PM   #122
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Sorry to jump back into this, but it is worth nothing that it likely isn't at their own expense. The band has his own budget with money acquired through fundraisers. Part of that money pays for transportation costs to competitions (which are not covered by the school budget), marching band staff salaries (only the director is paid by the school) and flag, prop, and guard outfit costs. The materiels are purchased through this budget and the students are measured. The outfits for the guard are then made by a group of parent volunteers. Our group was call the sewing committee, which was certainly an apt name. They would make all of the flags and outfits for color guard.

That, of course, leads to the fact that the parents of these performers were very much aware of what the theme of this show was. Many of them worked from within to help it along.
Fundraisers for my co-workers daughter in the marching band is for transportation to competitions. There is not any uniform changes or having to have a committee making uniforms or outfits for the guard. Often there are car wash fund raiser to get money for plane tickets to HI. Not uniforms. At any rate, every school runs things differently.

Just because the parent was aware of the theme of the show does not mean they agreed with said theme. I get the impression these types of shows with similar themes stem from this particular school frequently. If that is the case I guess a performance of Caligula would pass muster.
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Old 09-27-12, 02:41 PM   #123
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I get the impression these types of shows with similar themes stem from this particular school frequently. If that is the case I guess a performance of Caligula would pass muster.
I think that there would be a clear seperation between the display of a symbol and a nude orgy of minors.
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Old 09-27-12, 02:46 PM   #124
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Maybe controversy was the point of this?

Sometimes negative attention is better then no attention.

I am just throwing stuff out there, this boggles my mind honestly.
Maybe even trying to justify a bad director, who should go away for causing such trouble. I cannot judge, I've seen alot of good people do horrid things at times.

I see hammer and sickle I think Stalin. I know he killed more than Hitler, and was allowed to.

I cannot see any glorious angle, and at the same time cannot see a program director sacrificing their career to do this.

I am confused, and just offering possible reasons.

Bad judgement, nonetheless.

edit: Too bad there is no full videos of the show, I can see if they were sticking to a theme, or just being controversial for the sake of it.
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I think that there would be a clear seperation between the display of a symbol and a nude orgy of minors.
That would certainly create similar outrage...
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That would certainly create similar outrage...
No, it would result in criminal charges being made against the band director.
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No, it would result in criminal charges being made against the band director.
My example of Caligula being acceptable was at the extreme because this school looks to accept just about anything the band director hands out. I have drawn this conclusion after watching and reading other items showing these types of performances/material are common place at this HS. My point is, when is it not acceptable to continue performances such as the Russian Revolution? The band was inspired by the music of the Russian composer. Why not celebrate the culture and not the war? Put the guard in traditional dress of the people at the time.
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Bad judgement, nonetheless.
This pretty much sums it up. No need to make a federal case of it. I say just discipline or fire the person who decided this was ok and move on.
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Maybe even trying to justify a bad director, who should go away for causing such trouble. I cannot judge, I've seen alot of good people do horrid things at times.
Perhaps it is this notion that the director has worn out her welcome with performances such as this. The history shows these are what shes like to do. One never knows.
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This pretty much sums it up. No need to make a federal case of it. I say just discipline or fire the person who decided this was ok and move on.
Tenure. Sorry.
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I get the impression these types of shows with similar themes stem from this particular school frequently.
The only things which are similar are that they contain music and a dance routine, its what those bands do

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The band was inspired by the music of the Russian composer. Why not celebrate the culture and not the war? Put the guard in traditional dress of the people at the time.
That is traditional dress isn't it, its basicly an attempt at the Tolstoy shirt like is worn in that other "celebration" of the russian revolution Dr Zhivargo

You still are working on a baseless assumption, what on earth makes you think it was a celebration of the revolution?
what apart from faux news actually gives you that impression?
If you are unable to show that the many "contravertial" themes available and performed throughout the states are actually celebrations rather than just themed performances how can you honestly continue your line of arguement.
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You are working in your own world. I never said it was a celebration of a revolution nor disagreed with it. However, I did say the theatrical department of the school should host such performances. Not the marching band. My opinion.

Stop with the baseless assumptions I'm apparently working on. Christsakesalive!

Off to a Ravens football game. I hope the band performs Caligula.
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You are working in your own world. I never said it was a celebration of a revolution nor disagreed with it.
That is an interesting view.

Why not celebrate the culture and not the war?

I stated it is not the time or place for celebration of the Russian revolution

In my neck the woods, marching bands are marching bands. They do not celebrate revolutions, wars or anything of a political nature.

As stated to Tribesman, performances in celebration of war, revolutions and political in nature do not occur at the local HS's of which there are 12 with in 5 miles of each other.

The discussion concern celebration of a revolution and not a competition

I wonder who said all that then?

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However, I did say the theatrical department of the school should host such performances. Not the marching band. My opinion.
So the theatre should run the marching band for the marching band competitions not the marching band. An interesting view

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None of what you copied and pasted state that I see this as a celebration of revolution.

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So the theatre should run the marching band for the marching band competitions not the marching band. An interesting view
Really Tribesmen. This is how you interpret my statement that the theatrical department should host performances of a revolution and not the marching band department?

Off to the game ta ta.
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None of what you copied and pasted state that I see this as a celebration of revolution.
So as an example when you say the discussion is about the celebration of a revolution you really mean the discussion is not about the celebration of a revolution, and when you say it wasn't the time or place for a celebration of the revolution you mean the time and place don't matter because there wasn't a celebration of the revolution anyway.
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