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Old 09-22-12, 09:47 AM   #1
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Not a situation you want to be in as a country..i hope time will heal this gaping wound in your economy, this is bad for the rest of the world too.
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Old 09-22-12, 04:08 PM   #2
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What is sad too is, that they have adjourned. They need a break from all the hard work they have been doing, 11 days only have they been in session, 2 days in August, 9 days in September and won't do anything in October. And they need a raise? Its pathetic!
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Old 09-22-12, 04:19 PM   #3
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What is sad too is, that they have adjourned. They need a break from all the hard work they have been doing, 11 days only have they been in session, 2 days in August, 9 days in September abd won't do anything in October. And they need a raise? Its pathetic!
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Old 09-22-12, 06:10 PM   #4
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It is really hard pandering to the super-rich donors, and even harder trying to keep their money coming in.

It must be so hard to live with all that "lobbying" to supplement that oh so meager congressional pay, and the "Caddillac" health care they receive on our dime is so substandard. They would prefer a Maserati, or a porsch plan. After all, they don't gotta pay for it! (typical government employee)

Maybe the credit downgrading thanks to our fiscal conservative tea-billies last year, and being an election year, made them realize they should pass some token bull-feces to pacify the American, and combat their all time low approval ratings.

Smoke and mirrors.
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Old 09-22-12, 06:26 PM   #5
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Maybe the credit downgrading thanks to our fiscal conservative tea-billies last year, and being an election year, made them realize they should pass some token bull-feces to pacify the American, and combat their all time low approval ratings.

Smoke and mirrors.
Approval ratings don't mean squat to these idiots. Ask the average american how Congress is doing, and they'll say horrible. Ask them how their own rep/senator is doing, and they're likely to say that they're not the problem. It's always someone else.
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Old 09-22-12, 06:35 PM   #6
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Approval ratings don't mean squat to these idiots. Ask the average american how Congress is doing, and they'll say horrible. Ask them how their own rep/senator is doing, and they're likely to say that they're not the problem. It's always someone else.
Fine statement and analysis.


It is (IMHO) the innate human ability we all have to blame others for our own strifes. To distance ourselves from bad decisions.

That transcends politics, and pushes more into psychology.

I used to be quite a drinker, but what I learned was I always looked for excuses to drink. I am sad, had a bad day at work, old lady is mad at me. etc..Blame blame blame. But not addressing my own weaknesses. Not owning up to my own part in it.
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Old 09-23-12, 05:40 AM   #7
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I came to the conclusion that human nature will always mess up all government, no matter the format. We will always mess it up, because we are how we are, and we are in principal a kit of (intellectual) high tech hardware run by an operation system from the stoneage.

This makes me turning my head towards solutions sometimes described in Science Fiction. The possibility of mankind being governed unbiased and invulnerable to any kind of corruption by an artifical intelligence, or an alien intelligence, or operating within a kind of infrastructure that by its very own structure prevents manipulation and selfishness of those interacting by it. In a way, Daniel Suarez' current bestseller "Daemon" and "Darknet" describe an example of the latter, although pumped up with plenty of action and drama, but the basic idea is interesting.

One thing is for sure: human government forms all fall to corruption and tyranny sooner or later. All. Democracy - obviously was not the answer to this millenia old, existential problem.
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