Romney: Palestinians do not want peace

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by August

Talking about killing people again Sky? Why would we ever want to do that? So people like you can replace them as our new leaders?

I can kinda get skybirds animosity, after all it is not like I lack any extreme moments on here. Sometimes you can just get so angry about some of the stuff that goes on.

Though I will commend you on your level headedness, and logical common sense.

We may not have it the best, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.

For instance, quite a few times I critisized our policies, and our Congress, and our president, even suggested only a revolution could fix it.

Say We were in China, and I said the same thing. Where would I be?

Not here, in my home, talking to you guys on this forum.

Sure I trash Mitt, but if he were to win, I would respect him as my president. We may be flawed, and have our problems, but nobody (IMHO) has it better than us.

Mitt should have also stated the Israelis are not interested in peace either, but catering to the Jewish voter is important.

[nikimcbee]

Sure I trash Mitt, but if he were to win, I would respect him as my president. We may be flawed, and have our problems, but nobody (IMHO) has it better than us.

Mitt should have also stated the Israelis are not interested in peace either, but catering to the Jewish voter is important.

Part of me says, this is just election year saber-rattling. I'm just waiting for North Korea to show up and threaten something.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

Part of me says, this is just election year saber-rattling. I'm just waiting for North Korea to show up and threaten something.

Yeah they will show up soon, then we send them food, and they shut up, just like all the other times.

Edit: It would be an interesting way for them to undermine Pres. Obama, but seeing how big a warhawk Romney is, even fatboy Kim wouldn't do that. He likes Mr. Passive and predictable more.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

It would be an interesting way for them to undermine Obama

It's not an interesting way, it is the way that they are doing it. Netanyahu's game has long been to try and get the US to preempt Iran. Obama has been unwilling to do this, so the Israeli government is now not so subtle about Romney support in hopes that they will find him more willing in that respect. This isn't the first time that Israel has tried to manipulate the US into action either, which is exactly why I hold a particularly unfavorable view of that nation.

[August]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I can kinda get skybirds animosity, after all it is not like I lack any extreme moments on here. Sometimes you can just get so angry about some of the stuff that goes on.

I see what you're saying but a lot of folks jumped all over 1480 for making statements that were a heckuva lot more vague whereas Skybird seems to make a habit of demanding bloodshed.

Though I will commend you on your level headedness, and logical common sense.

Flattery will get you everywhere...

We may not have it the best, but I wouldn't trade it for the world.

For instance, quite a few times I critisized our policies, and our Congress, and our president, even suggested only a revolution could fix it.

Say We were in China, and I said the same thing. Where would I be?

Not here, in my home, talking to you guys on this forum.

Sure I trash Mitt, but if he were to win, I would respect him as my president. We may be flawed, and have our problems, but nobody (IMHO) has it better than us.

That was well said.

I think what foreigners like Sky have a hard time understanding is that it's always been this way in America and whatever our flaws we've made it work for a couple of centuries now. It's a track record that few can compete with.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

It's not an interesting way, it is the way that they are doing it. Netanyahu's game has long been to try and get the US to preempt Iran. Obama has been unwilling to do this, so the Israeli government is now not so subtle about Romney support in hopes that they will find him more willing in that respect. This isn't the first time that Israel has tried to manipulate the US into action either, which is exactly why I hold a particularly unfavorable view of that nation.

I feel so unintentionally like a bigot when I trash Israel. (But do so anyways, I never really valued my reputation)

I am glad I am not the only one to see these things.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I feel so unintentionally like a bigot when I trash Israel. (But do so anyways, I never really valued my reputation)

There are people who willfully conflate the ideas of criticizing Israel's actions and anti-semitism. It's important to realize that no country is above criticism.

Isn't it funny that Romney got everything so backwards with those two attempts.
The American Jewish vote is pretty solidly team D and the standing of the current Israeli regime is on the slide with that demographic, and the leading States with people who don't pay federal income tax are pretty solidly team R.
So he "appealed" to people who don't support him by advertising something they don't like and slagged people who do support him by caling them leeches.
Is it a cunning plan to avoid getting elected?

None. Non-profit organizations do not pay taxes.

Some non profits do not pay some taxes.
Some none profits do not pay income tax.
Some non proits have to pay federal income tax(UB).
Its taxes isn't it, terms and conditions always apply

Like for Berlin I strongly recommend to prettify the lamppost alongside them by hanging politicians and lobbyists and their clever smart lawyers onto them.

Sound like Skybird has shifted from being Taliban to being even crazier

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by August

Talking about killing people again Sky? Why would we ever want to do that? So people like you can replace them as our new leaders?

Why was the French revolution so bloody?

Because peacefully they would not have gotten rid of the aristocratic rotten elite tyranning them.

You cannot vote today's plutocracy out of office. Globalised big business also has left democratric checks&balances behind, and must no longer plays by the rules of laws undersotod and designed by the people. The justice system got hijacked. We live in post-democratic times already. Only few have noticed so far. And most of who did, shy away from what that means.

You are paying tribute and respect to principles that played a role in the past. You have fallen out of the present. By what the US were founded on, as a "philosophical fundament" and principles, I agree with that very much and like it. But I cannot bring the modern present, the relaity of the US today, into congruency with tese ideals. The state as is, and how it was meant a long time ago, are lightyears apart.

The fundament of your nation got hijacked by corrupt, small elites. You deny it. To me you are standing attention to a dead monument only.

This hijacking has taken place with practically all nations in the Westm, it seems to me. I do not accept a single nation in the West being called "democratic" anymore.

Read my sig, and take note of the author. Eisenhower was not the first issuing a warning.

Why was the French revolution so bloody?

Because peacefully they would not have gotten rid of the aristocratic rotten elite tyranning them.

Most people would say the revolution was only so bloody after they had already got rid of the rotten elite from power and the revolutionaries started slaughtering the revolutionaries in a long running frenzy of infighting and paranoia.

[Gerald]

US President Barack Obama has rebuked Republican rival Mitt Romney, saying that anyone seeking to be president needs to work for all Americans.

Mr Obama told chat show host David Letterman said Mr Romney was wrong to describe 47% of Americans as "victims".

Earlier, Mr Romney defended his remarks after secretly filmed video of a speech to donors became public.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19644498



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[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Vendor

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19644498

[August]

I guess the truth hurts don't it?

Democrats will never be able to stop deficit spending as long as their base expects their bread and circuses. I fear that an Obama 2nd term will leave us with just bigger and bigger deficits.

Just wait until the country finds out what the Dems really mean by "raise taxes on the rich". It's going to include the so called middle class they claim to champion.

[mookiemookie]

Politicians will never be able to stop deficit spending as long as their base expects their bread and circuses. I fear that a 2nd term for any president will leave us with just bigger and bigger deficits.

Just wait until the country finds out what the politicians really mean by "lowering taxes". It's going to screw the so called middle class they claim to champion.

Went ahead and fixed that for you.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Went ahead and fixed that for you.

I think it's a more polarized than that Mookie. The GoP actually cut taxes whereas the Dems, if they talk about taxes at all, talk about raising them.