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Old 09-18-12, 11:21 AM   #16
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Just ask Mitt - he knows some pretty good loopholes to avoid being taxed...

I believe you will find not more than a handfull Americans who don't pay taxes: you gotta be self-sufficient, but own no property, no car. You have to buy everything from the black market or acquire anything through bartering. Not even sure about the latter: in Germany "non-cash benefits" also get taxed - the friendly IRS probably has a similar law in their drawer.
I believe he was talking about income taxes.
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Old 09-18-12, 11:22 AM   #17
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Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.
Öh - pardon...? The Christian concept of Jews was for centuries that the Jews are traitors to God, and scum of the Earth for having betrayed and murdered Jesus. Belittling them and cursing them was papal policy and found entrance into Catholic lithurgy and rite. There were prayers held to ask God to lead them back onto the path of true belief.

The belief that God will curse those opposing the Jews, is a Jewish belief, based on the imagined power of their Thora which they used to carry around when going to another war. And they went into many wars in the past 3000 years.

That the Jews see themselves as the special people being closest to their god, is not surprising. Every theistic religion makes the same claim about itself.
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I believe he was talking about income taxes.
I believe he was distracted by a string hanging from a rear view mirror.

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Old 09-18-12, 11:37 AM   #19
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Öh - pardon...? The Christian concept of Jews was for centuries that the Jews are traitors to God, and scum of the Earth for having betrayed and murdered Jesus. Belittling them and cursing them was papal policy and found entrance into Catholic lithurgy and rite. There were prayers held to ask God to lead them back onto the path of true belief.

The belief that God will curse those opposing the Jews, is a Jewish belief, based on the imagined power of their Thora which they used to carry around when going to another war. And they went into many wars in the past 3000 years.

That the Jews see themselves as the special people being closest to their god, is not surprising. Every theistic religion makes the same claim about itself.
Yes, The Catholic movement for centuries hated the Jews. I'm referring to the Protestant movement the last 50 years or so. Surely you know the majority of the Christian right feel America should give the Jews special favor as the children of God.
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Old 09-18-12, 11:51 AM   #20
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I believe he was talking about income taxes.
Romeney did, but not Privateer.

What I find the most offensive about Romney's way of thought, is that there is an agreement among the US society to give prisoners shelter, food and medical attention. However if they are a law-abiding, they are suddenly not entitled to this anymore? A very strange way of thinking.
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Old 09-18-12, 11:57 AM   #21
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Just been wondering, are lottery wins taxable over in the US?
Yes, the lottery winning is considered a capital gain and taxed. Some casinos take the tax out of the winnings when you cash out and leave.
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Romeney did, but not Privateer.

I just want to know who and where are the 47% who don't pay taxes???


Now I'm not a smart politician and don't travel that circle.........
But I ain't met no one what don't pay taxes to Uncle Sam!
That's what us 'low life' talk about most.
Payin' taxes and gettin our butts handed to us.


So Mitt? Who's the 47% bitch?
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Retire and move to Mexico
Leaving the country doesn't really work for most Americans when it comes to tax
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It is clear who Romney is talking about, those couple of hundred on over $77 million a year who didn't actually have any income to tax, those 20,000 on over $200k who somehow failed to get any income, oh and some pensioners to make up the bulk of the rest...bloody leaches the lot of them you can be sure they are gonna be voting team D which is why Romney doesn't care about those people.

It amazes me how such a plank can manage to get through the primaries.
Then again there was a lot of crazy people both standing and voting.
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Couple hundred and 20,000 don't equal 47%
so the pensioners make up the bulk of the 47%?

What kind of math or what kind of madness figured this out?


Oh, wait........... Some idiot running for office had one of his flunkies come up with numbers that scare people.

MITT!! Watch the string closely!! See how it sways in the window?
Dumb arse!
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Romeney did, but not Privateer.

What I find the most offensive about Romney's way of thought, is that there is an agreement among the US society to give prisoners shelter, food and medical attention. However if they are a law-abiding, they are suddenly not entitled to this anymore? A very strange way of thinking.
No stranger than your idea that our nation could somehow pay for over 300 million peoples food, shelter and medical attention.

I mean if we can i'm wasting my time going to work every day...
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Yes, The Catholic movement for centuries hated the Jews. I'm referring to the Protestant movement the last 50 years or so. Surely you know the majority of the Christian right feel America should give the Jews special favor as the children of God.
Well,the sentiment over here is pretty much anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian and pro-Islam/Arabia, so no, I do not really know what you mean. Or do you mean the American Christian right? I then would say I also am not really in knowledge about their real attitude towards Israel - as a religiously motivated factor - as well. In general, the Western attitude in my view is pretty much turning against Israel, since many years, and deep-rooting antisemitism never has gone away in all of Europe anyway. It was well hidden only.
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Yes, the lottery winning is considered a capital gain and taxed. Some casinos take the tax out of the winnings when you cash out and leave.
That's a bit tough...here in the UK the winnings are tax free but once you take them out of a current account and make investments you pay tax on the interest.

Although I don't suppose that would be a major concern to someone who has just come into a mega sum of money.
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That's a bit tough...here in the UK the winnings are tax free but once you take them out of a current account and make investments you pay tax on the interest.

Although I don't suppose that would be a major concern to someone who has just come into a mega sum of money.
I had a friend that won quite a bit. When he cashed in the state tax was figured on the spot and taken. Federal tax depends on the person making the claim at tax time. April 16th each year. You can imagine that does not happen for the small time winner. The mega-million winners are obviously scrutinized.
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I had a friend that won quite a bit. When he cashed in the state tax was figured on the spot and taken. Federal tax depends on the person making the claim at tax time. April 16th each year. You can imagine that does not happen for the small time winner. The mega-million winners are obviously scrutinized.
I doubt that'll ever happen to me then
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That's a bit tough...here in the UK the winnings are tax free but once you take them out of a current account and make investments you pay tax on the interest.

Although I don't suppose that would be a major concern to someone who has just come into a mega sum of money.
Actually, I believe there is a misunderstanding about lottery winnings. The OP about lotteries was responded to by a situation regarding a "casino". If the original question was about the various US single state and/or multi-state lotteries (MegaMilions, PowerBall, etc.), the winnings are usually untaxed by the states sponsoring the respective lotteries, e.g., if you win a main prize in the MegaMillions lottery, the particpating states do not assess tax on the winnings. This is done to encourage participation in the lottery. However, if you win a main prize, the payout is over a period spanning several years (varying from 25-30 years, depending on the states), as sort of an annuity. If a winner opts for a total cash payout, the winings are decreased by approximately a quarter to a third of the total. The reasoning for this is that the lottery would be out the potential interset to be earned on the principal amount if you had elected to have the winnings paid out over many years...

In all cases, however, the US federal taxes apply, so even if the states don't dun you, the IRS will...

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