Romney: Palestinians do not want peace

Jimbuna · 09-18-12, 10:48 AM

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Are there any instructions as to how to get into the 47% that don't pay taxes?

Retire and move to Mexico

Armistead · 09-18-12, 11:02 AM

Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.

Skybird · 09-18-12, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.

Öh - pardon...? The Christian concept of Jews was for centuries that the Jews are traitors to God, and scum of the Earth for having betrayed and murdered Jesus. Belittling them and cursing them was papal policy and found entrance into Catholic lithurgy and rite. There were prayers held to ask God to lead them back onto the path of true belief.

The belief that God will curse those opposing the Jews, is a Jewish belief, based on the imagined power of their Thora which they used to carry around when going to another war. And they went into many wars in the past 3000 years.

That the Jews see themselves as the special people being closest to their god, is not surprising. Every theistic religion makes the same claim about itself.

Armistead · 09-18-12, 11:37 AM

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Öh - pardon...? The Christian concept of Jews was for centuries that the Jews are traitors to God, and scum of the Earth for having betrayed and murdered Jesus. Belittling them and cursing them was papal policy and found entrance into Catholic lithurgy and rite. There were prayers held to ask God to lead them back onto the path of true belief.

The belief that God will curse those opposing the Jews, is a Jewish belief, based on the imagined power of their Thora which they used to carry around when going to another war. And they went into many wars in the past 3000 years.

That the Jews see themselves as the special people being closest to their god, is not surprising. Every theistic religion makes the same claim about itself.

Yes, The Catholic movement for centuries hated the Jews. I'm referring to the Protestant movement the last 50 years or so. Surely you know the majority of the Christian right feel America should give the Jews special favor as the children of God.

Skybird · 09-18-12, 01:39 PM

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Yes, The Catholic movement for centuries hated the Jews. I'm referring to the Protestant movement the last 50 years or so. Surely you know the majority of the Christian right feel America should give the Jews special favor as the children of God.

Well,the sentiment over here is pretty much anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian and pro-Islam/Arabia, so no, I do not really know what you mean. Or do you mean the American Christian right? I then would say I also am not really in knowledge about their real attitude towards Israel - as a religiously motivated factor - as well. In general, the Western attitude in my view is pretty much turning against Israel, since many years, and deep-rooting antisemitism never has gone away in all of Europe anyway. It was well hidden only.

MH · 09-18-12, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.

Great thanx....and lolz

09-18-12, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Retire and move to Mexico

May as well.
All the poeple down there are moving up here so it should be pretty empty by now.

Jimbuna · 09-18-12, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by privateer

May as well.
All the poeple down there are moving up here so it should be pretty empty by now.

Just been wondering, are lottery wins taxable over in the US?

AVGWarhawk · 09-18-12, 11:57 AM

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Just been wondering, are lottery wins taxable over in the US?

Yes, the lottery winning is considered a capital gain and taxed. Some casinos take the tax out of the winnings when you cash out and leave.

Jimbuna · 09-18-12, 01:43 PM

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Yes, the lottery winning is considered a capital gain and taxed. Some casinos take the tax out of the winnings when you cash out and leave.

That's a bit tough...here in the UK the winnings are tax free but once you take them out of a current account and make investments you pay tax on the interest.

Although I don't suppose that would be a major concern to someone who has just come into a mega sum of money.

AVGWarhawk · 09-18-12, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

That's a bit tough...here in the UK the winnings are tax free but once you take them out of a current account and make investments you pay tax on the interest.

Although I don't suppose that would be a major concern to someone who has just come into a mega sum of money.

I had a friend that won quite a bit. When he cashed in the state tax was figured on the spot and taken. Federal tax depends on the person making the claim at tax time. April 16th each year. You can imagine that does not happen for the small time winner. The mega-million winners are obviously scrutinized.

Jimbuna · 09-18-12, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I had a friend that won quite a bit. When he cashed in the state tax was figured on the spot and taken. Federal tax depends on the person making the claim at tax time. April 16th each year. You can imagine that does not happen for the small time winner. The mega-million winners are obviously scrutinized.

I doubt that'll ever happen to me then

vienna · 09-18-12, 01:57 PM

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That's a bit tough...here in the UK the winnings are tax free but once you take them out of a current account and make investments you pay tax on the interest.

Although I don't suppose that would be a major concern to someone who has just come into a mega sum of money.

Actually, I believe there is a misunderstanding about lottery winnings. The OP about lotteries was responded to by a situation regarding a "casino". If the original question was about the various US single state and/or multi-state lotteries (MegaMilions, PowerBall, etc.), the winnings are usually untaxed by the states sponsoring the respective lotteries, e.g., if you win a main prize in the MegaMillions lottery, the particpating states do not assess tax on the winnings. This is done to encourage participation in the lottery. However, if you win a main prize, the payout is over a period spanning several years (varying from 25-30 years, depending on the states), as sort of an annuity. If a winner opts for a total cash payout, the winings are decreased by approximately a quarter to a third of the total. The reasoning for this is that the lottery would be out the potential interset to be earned on the principal amount if you had elected to have the winnings paid out over many years...

In all cases, however, the US federal taxes apply, so even if the states don't dun you, the IRS will...

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Armistead · 09-18-12, 11:19 AM

I have a friend that moved to Mexico in 07. He was a commerical realtor and web designer. When the economy went, so did his business, etc. His model wife left, lost everything. I think the IRS may have been after him as well. He lives very well in Mexico off $1,200 a month. He finally started a website for Americans listing all the Brothels in Mexico, names of good call girls, etc...I think now he is a pimp so to speak....and getting rich.

09-18-12, 12:19 PM

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Retire and move to Mexico

Leaving the country doesn't really work for most Americans when it comes to tax
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It is clear who Romney is talking about, those couple of hundred on over $77 million a year who didn't actually have any income to tax, those 20,000 on over $200k who somehow failed to get any income, oh and some pensioners to make up the bulk of the rest...bloody leaches the lot of them you can be sure they are gonna be voting team D which is why Romney doesn't care about those people.

It amazes me how such a plank can manage to get through the primaries.
Then again there was a lot of crazy people both standing and voting.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Instead of giving the Jews Palestine, we should've split a piece of Germany. The Christian concept that the Jews are some special people of God, that if you go against them, God will curse your nation, causes a bias in the West towards the situation.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I have a friend that moved to Mexico in 07. He was a commerical realtor and web designer. When the economy went, so did his business, etc. His model wife left, lost everything. I think the IRS may have been after him as well. He lives very well in Mexico off $1,200 a month. He finally started a website for Americans listing all the Brothels in Mexico, names of good call girls, etc...I think now he is a pimp so to speak....and getting rich.