Stop the clash of civilisations

[soopaman2]

There is nothing more easily controlled than a divided populace.

The originator of the quote escapes me, but the sentiment sticks.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

There is nothing more easily controlled than a divided populace.

And a populace that lives in misery and thus is filled with anger - anger that can be directed at the outside. See the Palestinians. After 1948, and after lost wars, in crowded space and with little material supply, they nevertheless breed like rabbits and do all they can to torpedo the few precious occasions where maybe an agreement with Israel maybe would have been possible. Demographics is a weapon, the social pendant to an atomic bomb, and it helps you to score in the propaganda war when making photos of those many wide open hungry eyes. A Palestinian populace living in peace of mind and material prosperity with a future perspective not coming from Hamas or Fatah, is not in the interest of those leaders of Hamas and Fatah profiting from the status quo.

In all countries that once had a socalled Arab spring, now the orthodox have taken over, sometimes more sometimes less openly - but they poull the strings either oin stage or behind the curtain. In Egypt. In Libya. In Tunisia. And in sSria the opposotion, already formed by many orthodox and radical groups, gets more radicalised by external Muslims factions interfering, while Iran also has boots on the ground.

The rallies and the hysteria we see these days, this so very well organised "spontaneious" outrage, last but not least is staged by radical groups in order to fight for more influence on their behalf.

Its all manipulation in a bit for more power by these. It's an orchestrated effort by Al Quaeda as well, and Salafists. The way the US ambassadfor got illed, to me looks like a planned and organised attack with a masterplan behind, which turns it into the first successfully carried out terror strike against the US since 9/11.

The failure of Obama's policies over these ME and Islam issues is so very very complete. One could almost have compassion with him.

Almost.

It was reported that Syria has test-fired empty chemical shells in the presence of Iranian officers some days ago, it will be interesting to see what the West and Washington does once Assad stzarts to use chemicals. Will the US really intervene then, claiming the overstepping of a red line as a reason? Only to help ultraorthodox radicals to turn over in Syria as well?

Damn, I miss the cold war.

[soopaman2]

I am glad your not an American voter, then we just might get the "corporate vulture" Romney and the "medicare voucher" Ryan. I love corporate shills, I so want them to run my country, once again, I am glad you can't vote here.

Vulture and voucher 2012! The rally cry of all red staters, until they cut off your welfare checks, right red staters, you get alot more of it than blue states do.

I'd rather have a guy who did little because he knows better, than someone who wants to feed the corporate welfare system even further despite the costs to the average Joe, and the economy, and domestic jobs, that are evaporating to China, and S korea, and Vietnam etc , thanks to republican policies dating back to St. Ronald Reagan, the actor who became an economist.

How about we go back to letting the savages kill each other? (like we do in our own countries, in more civil ways)

I do not miss the cold war, see my comments on Reagan. And I bet your on the west side of the wall, if you do miss it.

Edit: Leave the freaking savages alone! they are not anyones responsibilities.

Leave them be, then they will kill each other, the west wins...Leave them be?!

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I am glad your not an American voter, then we just might get the "corporate vulture" Romney and the "medicare voucher" Ryan. I love corporate shills, I so want them to run my country, once again, I am glad you can't vote here.

Vulture and voucher 2012! The rally cry of all red staters, until they cut off your welfare checks, right red staters, you get alot more of it than blue states do.

I'd rather have a guy who did little because he knows better, than someone who wants to feed the corporate welfare system even further despite the costs to the average Joe, and the economy, and domestic jobs, that are evaporating to China, and S korea, and Vietnam etc , thanks to republican policies dating back to St. Ronald Reagan, the actor who became an economist.

How about we go back to letting the savages kill each other? (like we do in our own countries, in more civil ways)

I do not miss the cold war, see my comments on Reagan. And I bet your on the west side of the wall, if you do miss it.

Edit: Leave the freaking savages alone! they are not anyones responsibilities.

Leave them be, then they will kill each other, the west wins...Leave them be?!

Please don't bring American politics into this mix, we will end up going off topic very easily.

To be honest, I liked Reagan too, Bedtime for Bozo was a great movie.

The rallies and the hysteria we see these days, this so very well organised "spontaneious" outrage, last but not least is staged by radical groups in order to fight for more influence on their behalf.

One of the reasons the west fails to stand up to this confusing anger is because the west is ruled by women. If you look at the Mr Average married western man, they all have one common fault, they are fore ever looking at their wrist watches to make sure they get home on time, that the damming words of "she who must be obeyed" where have you been, do not destroy his already fragile psyche. OK, I'm generalizing, but it is an inherent fault of this politically correct society we have allowed ourselves to become.

Merkels statement about "multiculturalism is not working" is right. But if a man had said that there would have been a global storm of biblical proportions. My point is, that's just whats needed. The Muslims need, I stress the word need, to know they cannot do unto others as they see fit, even in the name of Allah.

Muslims play an important part in British life these days, this is a positive from my personal viewpoint. But they still need to know there is a line that cannot be crossed. Deportation is a strong deterrent that needs to be used from time to time. The west needs to understand, this Muslim anger is never ever going to go away, it will be with them until the last day.