Crisis in Canada.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

Both the players and the owners forget one thing...

Ya, there's no doubt that both sides are equally guilty of greed and have little regard for the fans who pay to watch. This is Bettman's third work stoppage in his presidency. That's not a bad record. And the NHLPA is probably pro sports most incompetent union. Bad combination.

Devils came close last year.

I'm a Leaf fan. Long time. I may not have to listen to that laughter this year.

[soopaman2]

Originally Posted by u crank

I'm a Leaf fan. Long time. I may not have to listen to that laughter this year.

At risk of being chastized for going off topic, I will say I respect a die hard, a heck of alot more than a fair weather fan. Enjoy the laughs, it only makes the eventual victory so much better.

Back on topic, I do not want to take a side here, I know too little of the real details of the labor dispute. But it all comes down to a bunch of people who make too much money to play a sport, and a bunch of owners who make too much money from fees for people to enjoy the sport.

Both sides should die in a fire. Just pure disregard to the fan, and not even an apology to us from either side.

I am surprised they aren't asking for a government bailout, they remind me of the banks in this utter greed and screw you attitude to the folks who provide their revenue.

Edit: Maybe we should take away the anti-monopoly exemption on them. Seeing as how pro sports in America is exempt from monopolization laws that other money making enterprises have to answer too, and the players union is not a real union, those guys do not work, they play a game.

Can I get paid for playing Call Of Duty?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

At risk of being chastized for going off topic, I will say I respect a die hard, a heck of alot more than a fair weather fan. Enjoy the laughs, it only makes the eventual victory so much better.

Die hard or a fool. Born in Toronto and grew up in Ontario. Nuff said. I was 17 the last time they won.

Well it's not just greed, but power as well. Both sides want the upper hand. The league had 3 billion in revenues last year. The average NHL salary is 2.4 million. Teams are spending incredulous amounts to sign marginal free agents. I don't see the problem. Why do the fans pay the price? But it's nothing new.

Good luck with the 'Niners tonight.

[soopaman2]

Lifelong NY Knickerbocker fan (Basketball). Never won a title in my life, not doing anything to even suggest they want to win one. Carmello Anthony a leader? Letting Jeremy Lin go? Really?

We are all foolish. Too foolish for our own good. But sports gives us something to root for or against other than real life wars, an excuse to hate without mass deaths. I love sports!

The Niners don't need luck, just the defense they showed in Lambeau last week, Thanks

I hope this gets resolved, it would be in the leagues best interest to serve the fans best interest. I am talking from an economical viewpoint, Hockey is last in the major sports category in popularity in America.

The last strike nearly killed the sport here, it took 4 years for it to even receive proper coverage, even now it is still lagging somewhere slightly ahead of Major league Soccer in America.

Such a great sport, it is a shame!

[u crank]

Originally Posted by soopaman2

We are all foolish. Too foolish for our own good. But sports gives us something to root for or against other than real life wars, an excuse to hate without mass deaths. I love sports!

One thing about your team never winning is you get to root for others. Two years ago the Bruins won the cup and a friend of mine and former employer was a life long Boston fan. I couldn't have been happier. He waited a long time for it, 71/72. Also bruins defenceman Adam McQuaid is a local boy. Buys his car insurance from my wife.

Originally Posted by soopaman2

I hope this gets resolved, it would be in the leagues best interest to serve the fans best interest. I am talking from an economical viewpoint, Hockey is last in the major sports category in popularity in America.

The last strike nearly killed the sport here, it took 4 years for it to even receive proper coverage, even now it is still lagging somewhere slightly ahead of Major league Soccer in America.

Such a great sport, it is a shame!

Equally hard on the small market teams up here. Look at Winnipeg. First year back. That's gotta hurt them. It is a shame.

[Jimbuna]

Sooo....not fully understanding the situation, who suffers the most during the process....the fans?

[u crank]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Sooo....not fully understanding the situation, who suffers the most during the process....the fans?

Actually, Jim, everybody suffers. The teams get no revenue, the players don't get paid and the fans are denied games to watch. Typical labour dispute, no winners.

Oh well I may have to try something new. What's this cricket game you guys watch?