What is the world coming to... (Attack on US Embassy)

Takeda Shingen · 09-12-12, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This action constitutes a act of war. The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

And therein lies the problem. War against whom? And after the war, what then? We can win wars. We can't win peace.

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And therein lies the problem. War against whom? And after the war, what then? We can win wars. We can't win peace.

I was pointing out the 'act' itself. Nothing will become of it.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-12-12, 12:31 PM

More ignorance from the buttcrack of the world.

Takeda Shingen · 09-12-12, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I was pointing out the 'act' itself. Nothing will become of it.

I disagree about that. I think something will become of it. Political forces within the country are already beating the drums of war. Externally, Netanyahu is attempting to utilize the tragedy to pull the US into open war with Iran. I don't like being the pessimist, but this is going to be bad.

09-12-12, 12:54 PM

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The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

No it doesn't, and anyway the embassy is in the capital not in Benghazi.

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I believe the US also spread billions in Egypt alone.

Those figures are from the time of the dictator that recently got thrown out of office, I don't think those figures will buy you much goodwill credit with the people who wanted him out of office, in fact I think the military aid to the military dictatorship would be rather harmful to your local image.

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Rest in peace to the Ambassador, the FSO, and those two Marine MSGs. It's a disgusting shame what happened.

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What is the world coming to? Nothing it hasn't been for thousands of years. Murdering ambassadors is a time-honored tradition. Not that I approve or agree with it. I hold with the school that says ambassadors are sacrosanct. Still, it's not a surprise at all.

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 01:47 PM

@Tribesman

You are correct on the misconception that the Embassy is US soil.

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Under the concept of sovereign territory, actions taken against an ambassador or other diplomat or actions taken against the embassy itself either directly or indirectly, can be viewed as actions taken against the country that the ambassador, diplomat or embassy represent.

09-12-12, 01:59 PM

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However,.........

Thats why S.S. got a nod AVG....... I hold with the school that says ambassadors are sacrosanct.
A problem of course does arise when it comes to criminal scum like these murderers in Libya, in that they are criminals and don't really hold with laws or the delicacies of diplomacy.

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 02:05 PM

What I had posted also encompassed the embassy itself. You are correct that all of it thrown out the window concerning thugs. Word is this was coordinated and a terrorist attack. Not simply protesters.

gimpy117 · 09-12-12, 11:54 PM

the ambassador was big on eve online, there's been a lot of tributes to him on there

1480 · 09-13-12, 12:00 AM

How are your broncos doing?

Will my huskies be playing them this season?

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I disagree about that. I think something will become of it. Political forces within the country are already beating the drums of war. Externally, Netanyahu is attempting to utilize the tragedy to pull the US into open war with Iran. I don't like being the pessimist, but this is going to be bad.

I think the current administration will want to avoid a war during the campaigning season.

Takeda Shingen · 09-12-12, 02:09 PM

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I think the current administration will want to avoid a war during the campaigning season.

The current administration will continue the track on which the nation is. We will continue to pursue democracy across the Middle East and reap the disatsterous conaequences. The potentally new administration will pursue open war with Iran, Libya and Egypt, which will result in the same. We are Rome, and the year is 378 AD.

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

The current administration will continue the track on which the nation is. We will continue to pursue democracy across the Middle East and reap the disatsterous conaequences. The potentally new administration will pursue open war with Iran, Libya and Egypt, which will result in the same. We are Rome, and the year is 378 AD.

We are a country that creates an economy through war. It is cleverly sold as "spreading Democracy" to the world.

Kloef · 09-12-12, 02:46 PM

Condolances to all victims of this attack by savages.

Meanwhile we (Nato etc.) keep fighting their war for freedom...and our oil

Penguin · 09-12-12, 03:09 PM

People use US websites to spread their view and coordinate their attacks, because a guy who lives in America, several thousand miles away, put a vid on one of these very same sites. So they desecrate the US flag, a symbol important to many Americans, to protest the attack on their symbols and kill a man who lived nowadays because of a man who lived centuries ago.

Nothing new to see, only people who live with their head in their ass.

09-12-12, 01:47 PM	#6
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,275 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	@Tribesman You are correct on the misconception that the Embassy is US soil. However, Under the concept of sovereign territory, actions taken against an ambassador or other diplomat or actions taken against the embassy itself either directly or indirectly, can be viewed as actions taken against the country that the ambassador, diplomat or embassy represent. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,275 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	What I had posted also encompassed the embassy itself. You are correct that all of it thrown out the window concerning thugs. Word is this was coordinated and a terrorist attack. Not simply protesters. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	the ambassador was big on eve online, there's been a lot of tributes to him on there __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

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1480 Lead Slinger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chitcago, Illinoise Posts: 1,442 Downloads: 74 Uploads: 0	How are your broncos doing? Will my huskies be playing them this season? __________________

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Kloef Weps Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 360 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Condolances to all victims of this attack by savages. Meanwhile we (Nato etc.) keep fighting their war for freedom...and our oil __________________ http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/

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Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,121 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	More ignorance from the buttcrack of the world.

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Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	People use US websites to spread their view and coordinate their attacks, because a guy who lives in America, several thousand miles away, put a vid on one of these very same sites. So they desecrate the US flag, a symbol important to many Americans, to protest the attack on their symbols and kill a man who lived nowadays because of a man who lived centuries ago. Nothing new to see, only people who live with their head in their ass.