What is the world coming to... (Attack on US Embassy)

nikimcbee · 09-12-12, 11:14 AM

My night shift partner just got back from Egypt (He's Egyptian). He said that place is an absolute circus.

I want to talk to him more about it, but he can get pretty passionate about this stuff.

OOPs, didn't know about Libya, I thought you were talking about Egypt.

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UE-AdkbCz8A

Oberon · 09-12-12, 11:26 AM

It's hardly surprising, I think everyone knew this sort of thing would happen after the Arab Springs. The young ideologues that began the uprising are finding themselves sidelined by fanaticism and there is no force that can keep order in Libya any more. It is, in a way, a bit like Iraq and Afghanistan after the Saddam and Taliban governments had been toppled. There's a massive vacuum which is struggling to be filled and in the meantime it's open season for every nutjob that has a grudge against someone or something.

Takeda Shingen · 09-12-12, 11:58 AM

This should not have come as a surprise to anyone. Our foreign policy in the Middle East has only served to enpower our enemies through 'spreading democracy' and 'nation building'. After all, we just helped do these things in both Libya and Egypt. And what do they do? They turn and immediately attack us. Shocking.

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 12:02 PM

I believe the US also spread billions in Egypt alone.

Quote:

One-third of ALL
US AID goes to
Israel and Egypt.

These 2 countries
receive one-third of
the total aid,
the majority of which
pays for armaments.
Yet, neither is a "developing" country

http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/poli...oreign-aid.htm

Sailor Steve · 09-12-12, 12:05 PM

What is the world coming to? Nothing it hasn't been for thousands of years. Murdering ambassadors is a time-honored tradition. Not that I approve or agree with it. I hold with the school that says ambassadors are sacrosanct. Still, it's not a surprise at all.

Kaye T. Bai · 09-12-12, 12:17 PM

Rest in peace to the Ambassador, the FSO, and those two Marine MSGs. It's a disgusting shame what happened.

AVGWarhawk · 09-12-12, 12:20 PM

This action constitutes a act of war. The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

Takeda Shingen · 09-12-12, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

This action constitutes a act of war. The Embassy is seen and held as American soil.

And therein lies the problem. War against whom? And after the war, what then? We can win wars. We can't win peace.

Skybird · 09-12-12, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

This should not have come as a surprise to anyone. Our foreign policy in the Middle East has only served to enpower our enemies through 'spreading democracy' and 'nation building'. After all, we just helped do these things in both Libya and Egypt. And what do they do? They turn and immediately attack us. Shocking.

^

Obama, "Cairo speech" anyone?

09-12-12, 11:14 AM	#1
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	My night shift partner just got back from Egypt (He's Egyptian). He said that place is an absolute circus. I want to talk to him more about it, but he can get pretty passionate about this stuff. OOPs, didn't know about Libya, I thought you were talking about Egypt. http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.UE-AdkbCz8A __________________

09-12-12, 12:05 PM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	What is the world coming to? Nothing it hasn't been for thousands of years. Murdering ambassadors is a time-honored tradition. Not that I approve or agree with it. I hold with the school that says ambassadors are sacrosanct. Still, it's not a surprise at all. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-12-12, 12:17 PM	#6
Kaye T. Bai Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Western Hemisphere, Earth, Milky Way Galaxy, Local Group, Virgo Supercluster Posts: 585 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Rest in peace to the Ambassador, the FSO, and those two Marine MSGs. It's a disgusting shame what happened. Last edited by Kaye T. Bai; 09-12-12 at 03:19 PM.

09-12-12, 12:20 PM	#7
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,281 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	This action constitutes a act of war. The Embassy is seen and held as American soil. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

09-12-12, 11:26 AM	#2
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	It's hardly surprising, I think everyone knew this sort of thing would happen after the Arab Springs. The young ideologues that began the uprising are finding themselves sidelined by fanaticism and there is no force that can keep order in Libya any more. It is, in a way, a bit like Iraq and Afghanistan after the Saddam and Taliban governments had been toppled. There's a massive vacuum which is struggling to be filled and in the meantime it's open season for every nutjob that has a grudge against someone or something.

09-12-12, 11:58 AM	#3
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	This should not have come as a surprise to anyone. Our foreign policy in the Middle East has only served to enpower our enemies through 'spreading democracy' and 'nation building'. After all, we just helped do these things in both Libya and Egypt. And what do they do? They turn and immediately attack us. Shocking.