when does the captain get his uboot badge?

Red Heat · 09-11-12, 05:04 AM

Same point of view here...

Obltn Strand · 09-11-12, 06:25 AM

IRON CROSS 2ND CLASS
Usually awarded after 1st patrol. Sometimes even without any sinkings.

U BOAT BADGE
Awarded after two patrols.

IRON CROSS 1ST CLASS
Awarded for 50 000 tons of shipping sunk.

GERMAN CROSS
It ranked between knight's cross iron cross I. I use 75 000 of shipping sunk.

KNIGHT'S CROSS
100 000 tons of shipping sunk. Knight's cross variants for continued sinkings gnerally 50 000 tons interwals.

Also many mid/late war captains had medals up to iron cross I class won as watch officers.

Also late war captains could won knight's cross for conducting a single convoy attack with good results or even sink a single ship.

None of these are modelled very well with SH3 or any super mods.

Hitman · 09-11-12, 08:27 AM

What complicates things even more, is that as war progressed the Knight's cross changed requirements. After 1943 and specially by the end of 1944, in view of the difficulties of even staying alive Dönitz awarded several to commanders who had just sunk one ship or even damaged some.

Obltn Strand · 09-11-12, 02:00 PM

With little tinkering personel file looks quite realistic. IMO NYGM awards medals best. All I had to do so far is remove u-boat front clasp and add uboat badge.

zygoma · 09-18-12, 02:43 AM

I finally got the U Boat Badge in one of my un-doctored careers, but it was quite late in the war. It's not the good ol' plain one, either. It's the one with the diamond where the swastika would ordinarily be, and which was, I believe, usually saved for the elite folks, like Mr. Donitz.

I got it with one of my careers where the realism was fairly low, like 64%, but made it into late 1944 before it was awarded. This was before I started "fiddling" with config files, and before Herr von Braun joined the crew in that one rather startling career I wrote of in a different thread.

So it looks like the boat's commander is above the paltry "regular" U Boat Badge; presumably he's already earned one some time before getting his own command.....

Zygoma

helo06 · 11-13-12, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Obltn Strand

With little tinkering personel file looks quite realistic. IMO NYGM awards medals best. All I had to do so far is remove u-boat front clasp and add uboat badge.

This is a bit off topic here, but how have you been able to switch to a type IX after 3 patrols? I've been hunting around here for ages for a mod or a guide allowing me to switch to a type VII, but no luck... If I'll have to gain the renown to be able do the switch with a type II, I'll be able to do it around 1960s. Any help would be appreciated, and again I'm sorry for the OT. Also, vai etta on taalla muitakin Suomalaisia.

Gustav Schiebert · 11-14-12, 03:58 AM

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I finally got the U Boat Badge in one of my un-doctored careers, but it was quite late in the war. It's not the good ol' plain one, either. It's the one with the diamond where the swastika would ordinarily be, and which was, I believe, usually saved for the elite folks, like Mr. Donitz.

I think the issue might be that the space in your medal case is not for the same ordinary U-Boat War Badge as the one the crews get, but the 'diamond' version (only 12 of which were ever awarded). This might explain why we have to wait for ages for it rather than getting it on our 1/2nd patrol like the rest of the men. In reality as has been said you'd almost certainly already have it, maybe the game takes it as read.

aland2 · 12-02-12, 06:01 PM

Name: PETER RICHTER
Date of Birth: 15JUL12
Place of Birth: KASSEL
Date of Intake: 01APR34 (CREW 34)

Promotions
18DEC34 SEEKADETT
01DEC35 FÄHNRICH Z. S.
01JUN37 OBERFÄHNRICH Z. S.
01DEC37 LEUTNANT Z. S.
29OCT39 OBERLEUTNANT Z. S.
09MAY41 KAPITÄNLEUTNANT

Medals
29OCT39 IRON CROSS, SECOND CLASS
02FEB40 IRON CROSS, FIRST CLASS
27MAY40 KNIGHT'S CROSS
21JUL40 KNIGHT'S CROSS WITH OAK LEAVES
24OCT40 KNIGHT'S CROSS WITH OAK LEAVES AND SWORDS
11JAN41 KNIGHT'S CROSS WITH OAK LEAVES, SWORDS, AND DIAMONDS

Badges
21JUL40 U-BOAT FRONT CLASP
08AUG40 U-BOAT BADGE

U-Bootwaffe Postings
09NOV38 U-Boat Flotilla Weddigen (Commander training)
01SEP39 2nd Flotilla (15 patrols)
20DEC40 7th/13th Flotilla (5 patrols)

U-Boat Commands
01SEP39 U-33, Type VIIB (20 patrols)

09-11-12, 05:04 AM	#1
Red Heat Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portugal Posts: 1,093 Downloads: 267 Uploads: 0	Same point of view here... __________________ "There is three kinds of man: the living, the death, and those who are at Sea." Plato

09-11-12, 06:25 AM	#2
Obltn Strand Commodore Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 614 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	IRON CROSS 2ND CLASS Usually awarded after 1st patrol. Sometimes even without any sinkings. U BOAT BADGE Awarded after two patrols. IRON CROSS 1ST CLASS Awarded for 50 000 tons of shipping sunk. GERMAN CROSS It ranked between knight's cross iron cross I. I use 75 000 of shipping sunk. KNIGHT'S CROSS 100 000 tons of shipping sunk. Knight's cross variants for continued sinkings gnerally 50 000 tons interwals. Also many mid/late war captains had medals up to iron cross I class won as watch officers. Also late war captains could won knight's cross for conducting a single convoy attack with good results or even sink a single ship. None of these are modelled very well with SH3 or any super mods. __________________ Himmel, sukeltakaa!

09-11-12, 08:27 AM	#3
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	What complicates things even more, is that as war progressed the Knight's cross changed requirements. After 1943 and specially by the end of 1944, in view of the difficulties of even staying alive Dönitz awarded several to commanders who had just sunk one ship or even damaged some. __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

09-11-12, 02:00 PM	#4
Obltn Strand Commodore Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 614 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	With little tinkering personel file looks quite realistic. IMO NYGM awards medals best. All I had to do so far is remove u-boat front clasp and add uboat badge. __________________ Himmel, sukeltakaa!

09-18-12, 02:43 AM	#5
zygoma Loader Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 84 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	I finally got the U Boat Badge in one of my un-doctored careers, but it was quite late in the war. It's not the good ol' plain one, either. It's the one with the diamond where the swastika would ordinarily be, and which was, I believe, usually saved for the elite folks, like Mr. Donitz. I got it with one of my careers where the realism was fairly low, like 64%, but made it into late 1944 before it was awarded. This was before I started "fiddling" with config files, and before Herr von Braun joined the crew in that one rather startling career I wrote of in a different thread. So it looks like the boat's commander is above the paltry "regular" U Boat Badge; presumably he's already earned one some time before getting his own command..... Zygoma __________________ If it's long and dark green and its bite makes you scream, that's..... a Moray. 7/5 of adults don't understand fractions. I'm told that two things can be reliably predicted to fail with increasing age. The first is memory. I can't remember the other right now.

12-02-12, 06:01 PM	#8
aland2 Nub Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Name: PETER RICHTER Date of Birth: 15JUL12 Place of Birth: KASSEL Date of Intake: 01APR34 (CREW 34) Promotions 18DEC34 SEEKADETT 01DEC35 FÄHNRICH Z. S. 01JUN37 OBERFÄHNRICH Z. S. 01DEC37 LEUTNANT Z. S. 29OCT39 OBERLEUTNANT Z. S. 09MAY41 KAPITÄNLEUTNANT Medals 29OCT39 IRON CROSS, SECOND CLASS 02FEB40 IRON CROSS, FIRST CLASS 27MAY40 KNIGHT'S CROSS 21JUL40 KNIGHT'S CROSS WITH OAK LEAVES 24OCT40 KNIGHT'S CROSS WITH OAK LEAVES AND SWORDS 11JAN41 KNIGHT'S CROSS WITH OAK LEAVES, SWORDS, AND DIAMONDS Badges 21JUL40 U-BOAT FRONT CLASP 08AUG40 U-BOAT BADGE U-Bootwaffe Postings 09NOV38 U-Boat Flotilla Weddigen (Commander training) 01SEP39 2nd Flotilla (15 patrols) 20DEC40 7th/13th Flotilla (5 patrols) U-Boat Commands 01SEP39 U-33, Type VIIB (20 patrols)