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Kremmen · 09-05-12, 04:27 PM

Don't think there's a way to yell 'buying rares' and wait for offers unfortunately,come to think of it that would save sooo much time.
Usually the Soviet Union,USA or UK are good sources of rares.
If you have an excess of anything energy,metal,supplies etc it's always a good idea to try and set up a trade with a country before trying to buy from them,makes them think more favourably of you and I think if I recall it actually makes it cheaper to buy from them too.The Soviets always seem to want supplies.
In the diplomacy tab if you click on a resources icon it will sort by who has the most of that resource,that can help to speed things up a bit.
I can't remember who is responsible for the convoy for overseas trade,the buyer or the seller so always make sure you have enough convoys.

Safe-Keeper · 09-05-12, 08:29 PM

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Don't think there's a way to yell 'buying rares' and wait for offers unfortunately,come to think of it that would save sooo much time.

Am I mistaken, or is there another x-pack for HOI3 coming up? If this isn't in, it's definitely should be something to consider to the devs, imo.

That, and the trade proposal window somehow letting you know in advance which deals the country will accept so that you don't have to try the sliders for each.

Safe-Keeper · 09-06-12, 07:30 AM

In other news, I got my resource shortage sorted out (even though it involved trading with the Russkies, them bastards) and my IC is up to 24 now

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I'm considering taking my Viking destroyers sub hunting in the Western Approaches. The Allies are losing convoys left and right, and either way, combat experience is only good for my boys. Norwegians belong on the high seas!

Kremmen · 09-06-12, 08:29 AM

Yea there's a new expansion coming out on Sept 26 'Their finest Hour',I see it's up for pre-order on gamersgate.
It would be nice if in the diplomacy tab there was an option where you could select what you want to buy and a list of countries who would trade with you came up,it can get tedious going through the list one at a time trying to set up a deal.
Good to see you got your IC sorted though

soopaman2 · 09-07-12, 04:29 PM

I of course neglected to say threat by neighbors increases alignment to other factions, so my advice on kissing Germany backside is flawed. My fear was allied alignment issues, but I forgot about threat modifiers.

May I ask how you are doing your research?

Are you going a naval route, or a land route, are you playing turtle, or do you plan on striking?

Germany can be defeated at sea, especially as an allied member. Battlecruiser research. BCs seem to be king in this game.

At the same time, America will eventually show up. (Whether you are still around for it or not, depends on Russia)

When they do land on Europe, which will happen, would be the best time to push into Belgium and France.

Being Norway, you almost have a natural bottleneck to keep the Bosch out.
Fortify it with bunkers, and you can keep them off your butt, until the true allied assault comes. Alone you will fall, Britain is of no help, as they are reeling on the defensive most the time, and too worried about Colonial possessions in Africa, and the Pacific. (Not sure if this is intentional, or a game flaw)

I even seen an AI Germany conquer GB in 1942, in an American game in which I joined the Commintern.

Safe-Keeper · 09-07-12, 06:58 PM

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May I ask how you are doing your research?

Erm... I don't have much of a research plan, really, but I've upgraded the guns of my fighters, upgraded my infantry in various ways (including unlocking mountain infantry), and done an IC-boostnig tech or two. Dunno if they're any good given they give such a tiny bonus and my IC is so low, but it felt like a good idea at the time :P . I also have the tech that allows me to build new factories, though I haven't actually got any built.

soopaman2 · 09-09-12, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Erm... I don't have much of a research plan, really, but I've upgraded the guns of my fighters, upgraded my infantry in various ways (including unlocking mountain infantry), and done an IC-boostnig tech or two. Dunno if they're any good given they give such a tiny bonus and my IC is so low, but it felt like a good idea at the time :P . I also have the tech that allows me to build new factories, though I haven't actually got any built.

One thing you could never be is an absolute powerhouse. The game tries to be accurate with IC points. Russia (just an example)despite its size sucks until you improve infrastructure if you play as them.

The best bet would be to choose a research specialization. Land or sea.

Assess what you choose to accomplish in your game. Running interference on naval blockading operations against Britain until America shows up. Or giving it to the hun!

Norway is a fun location to play, due to your ability to turtle, and strike when ready.

Once France has split into 2 (Vichy/Nazi) and the Germans begin playing with the Russian, you can then push into Belgium and the other low countries, you will get minimal militia defense if you wait for Russia to start pushing back.

In other words 1942-43 is the earliest to wage war, the rest of the time you will be playing diplomat, and using spies to avoid influence from the Commies. America is too pivotal, unless the Russians really start kicking butt, which is rare. They always hold thier own but never push back, until America comes in 43 or so.

If you strike at the right time, before America wakes the heck up, and as the Russians get thier act together, you could maybe "hypothetically" cause a pincer movement.

The key in all this is America. Germany as a consolidated force is unstoppable, but split on 2 fronts with you creating the third, regardless of your inferior IC, it can work. We all know Operation Market Garden failed, but you could make it happen!

My advice overall? Use the others as fodder, America has alot to spare, but they are so slow into the war that it can become dangerous for you. Games will tend to surprise you, I turned America to Commintern before as the SU. so strangeness happens.

Safe-Keeper · 09-11-12, 01:56 PM

I'm strongly considering invading and annexing Sweden. They're not doing anything good for the war effort while neutral and the IC and resources from their lands would help fuel the Norwegian war effort. Plus, hey, it's Sweden

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Then again, their neutrality is down to 27, and they are aligned fairly close to the Allies, so maybe I should just wait for them to join the war on their own accord? Also, as Germany has pretty much steamrolled Finland, taking Sweden would give me a direct land border to their armies, which I have a feeling I don't want (then again, if the US would only get their asses in gear and invade France, it would give me that third front you spoke of :p ).

soopaman2 · 09-11-12, 02:55 PM

Good luck, Safe-Keeper.

When I play this game, I like to pre-plan, but things always change, there is always the proverbial monkey wrench in the gears.

Just be ready to improvise and adapt.

Invading the Swedes would be good for a boost in trade goods and IC etc.
Like you said alignment issues will make that hard.
The threat produced by Germany, and Russia (Faction leaders in close proximity, with massive armies) tends to keep them firmly in allied hands, but I am sure spies can be used to reduce neutrality, but doing so costs IC, and leaves your own country open to be being subverted by other factions.

A friend of mine, pointed out to me that Americas arrival in Europe depends on how well Japan does in China in the early game.

Pearl Harbor and all. He has seen it come as late as 1944, and another thing to note is, America is really democratic, and pre war they have really oppressive laws that hamper troop recruiting. (they also have the most IC, so when they do piss them off...Oh boy..)

They are also far from any real countries that provide threat modifiers, it seems they are not scripted to jump in unless provoked, just as the Japanese are scripted to eventually provoke them. (Barring any drastic alignment things, like a crafty player converting them to axis or commintern)

Even playing as America, it is really difficult to jump in the war.
I really love this game. Can't you tell?

Safe-Keeper · 09-26-12, 06:59 PM

The surrender of the Soviet Union has one fairly major benefit, however: The Japanese, who had been eating through Siberia for ages and had made it disturbingly close to Europa, have pulled their murderous brutes home and set their sights on other targets:

[Pretend there is a screenshot of a "Japan declares Limited War against the United States of America" dialogue box here:3]

YESSSSS! FI-NAH-LLY!!

I envision a response akin to this:

"I was trying to sleep, you sunofa***** japs!"

09-05-12, 04:27 PM	#1
Kremmen Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 116 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Don't think there's a way to yell 'buying rares' and wait for offers unfortunately,come to think of it that would save sooo much time. Usually the Soviet Union,USA or UK are good sources of rares. If you have an excess of anything energy,metal,supplies etc it's always a good idea to try and set up a trade with a country before trying to buy from them,makes them think more favourably of you and I think if I recall it actually makes it cheaper to buy from them too.The Soviets always seem to want supplies. In the diplomacy tab if you click on a resources icon it will sort by who has the most of that resource,that can help to speed things up a bit. I can't remember who is responsible for the convoy for overseas trade,the buyer or the seller so always make sure you have enough convoys. __________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember amateurs built the ark.....Professionals built the Titanic.

09-06-12, 07:30 AM	#3
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	In other news, I got my resource shortage sorted out (even though it involved trading with the Russkies, them bastards) and my IC is up to 24 now. I'm considering taking my Viking destroyers sub hunting in the Western Approaches. The Allies are losing convoys left and right, and either way, combat experience is only good for my boys. Norwegians belong on the high seas! __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

09-06-12, 08:29 AM	#4
Kremmen Torpedoman Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 116 Downloads: 170 Uploads: 0	Yea there's a new expansion coming out on Sept 26 'Their finest Hour',I see it's up for pre-order on gamersgate. It would be nice if in the diplomacy tab there was an option where you could select what you want to buy and a list of countries who would trade with you came up,it can get tedious going through the list one at a time trying to set up a deal. Good to see you got your IC sorted though __________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember amateurs built the ark.....Professionals built the Titanic.

09-07-12, 04:29 PM	#5
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I of course neglected to say threat by neighbors increases alignment to other factions, so my advice on kissing Germany backside is flawed. My fear was allied alignment issues, but I forgot about threat modifiers. May I ask how you are doing your research? Are you going a naval route, or a land route, are you playing turtle, or do you plan on striking? Germany can be defeated at sea, especially as an allied member. Battlecruiser research. BCs seem to be king in this game. At the same time, America will eventually show up. (Whether you are still around for it or not, depends on Russia) When they do land on Europe, which will happen, would be the best time to push into Belgium and France. Being Norway, you almost have a natural bottleneck to keep the Bosch out. Fortify it with bunkers, and you can keep them off your butt, until the true allied assault comes. Alone you will fall, Britain is of no help, as they are reeling on the defensive most the time, and too worried about Colonial possessions in Africa, and the Pacific. (Not sure if this is intentional, or a game flaw) I even seen an AI Germany conquer GB in 1942, in an American game in which I joined the Commintern. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

09-11-12, 01:56 PM	#8
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	I'm strongly considering invading and annexing Sweden. They're not doing anything good for the war effort while neutral and the IC and resources from their lands would help fuel the Norwegian war effort. Plus, hey, it's Sweden. Then again, their neutrality is down to 27, and they are aligned fairly close to the Allies, so maybe I should just wait for them to join the war on their own accord? Also, as Germany has pretty much steamrolled Finland, taking Sweden would give me a direct land border to their armies, which I have a feeling I don't want (then again, if the US would only get their asses in gear and invade France, it would give me that third front you spoke of :p ). __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.

09-11-12, 02:55 PM	#9
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Good luck, Safe-Keeper. When I play this game, I like to pre-plan, but things always change, there is always the proverbial monkey wrench in the gears. Just be ready to improvise and adapt. Invading the Swedes would be good for a boost in trade goods and IC etc. Like you said alignment issues will make that hard. The threat produced by Germany, and Russia (Faction leaders in close proximity, with massive armies) tends to keep them firmly in allied hands, but I am sure spies can be used to reduce neutrality, but doing so costs IC, and leaves your own country open to be being subverted by other factions. A friend of mine, pointed out to me that Americas arrival in Europe depends on how well Japan does in China in the early game. Pearl Harbor and all. He has seen it come as late as 1944, and another thing to note is, America is really democratic, and pre war they have really oppressive laws that hamper troop recruiting. (they also have the most IC, so when they do piss them off...Oh boy..) They are also far from any real countries that provide threat modifiers, it seems they are not scripted to jump in unless provoked, just as the Japanese are scripted to eventually provoke them. (Barring any drastic alignment things, like a crafty player converting them to axis or commintern) Even playing as America, it is really difficult to jump in the war. I really love this game. Can't you tell? __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

09-26-12, 06:59 PM	#10
Safe-Keeper Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Norway Posts: 3,234 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	The surrender of the Soviet Union has one fairly major benefit, however: The Japanese, who had been eating through Siberia for ages and had made it disturbingly close to Europa, have pulled their murderous brutes home and set their sights on other targets: [Pretend there is a screenshot of a "Japan declares Limited War against the United States of America" dialogue box here:3] YESSSSS! FI-NAH-LLY!! I envision a response akin to this: "I was trying to sleep, you sunofa**** japs!"* __________________ First Strike Mod tester. Hardcore sub skipper.