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Old 08-30-12, 07:07 PM   #1
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Eh, didn't Romney tell anti-abortion folks he was pro-life and pro abortion folks he was pro choice?, I believe there is video proof of this on Youtube.... Anyhow hes a serial flip-flopper, I couldnt guess what he would actually do as president - but it will be probably be nothing new, hes not exactly worlds apart from Obama on paper. The Pre Election debates between those two will be pretty boring methinks. Lots of petty hair splitting I reckon.
What a leader says while he is campaigning and what he says while in power are often two different things anyway. Im amazed we still take anyones campaign promises seriously at all.

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Old 08-30-12, 09:12 PM   #2
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Eh, didn't Romney tell anti-abortion folks he was pro-life and pro abortion folks he was pro choice?, I believe there is video proof of this on Youtube.... Anyhow hes a serial flip-flopper, I couldnt guess what he would actually do as president - but it will be probably be nothing new, hes not exactly worlds apart from Obama on paper. The Pre Election debates between those two will be pretty boring methinks. Lots of petty hair splitting I reckon.
What a leader says while he is campaigning and what he says while in power are often two different things anyway. Im amazed we still take anyones campaign promises seriously at all.

And BHO is not a wind sock......
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Old 08-31-12, 01:56 AM   #4
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Another Illinoisan chiming in,
And I will be the first to admit that I haven't been following this whole "election" thing as close as I probably should be. And I apologize for stating the obvious, as I'm sure I will quite often

I believe the republican party made a terrible choice in Nominating Romney, I think Ron Paul would have been a better choice, IMHO.
I also hold my opinion that Washington DC has lost track of the ideology this country is built around, which is that everyone should have the freedom to do what they want with their lives, religiously, physically, otherwise, While the Government simply assures that we can all live together harmoniously through laws designed to keep things cohesive and from getting out of control.
I think we've lost track of the whole "separation of church and state" thing that our forefathers pushed to have in this country. It is not a governors, politicians, or president's place to say "well, God doesn't want people to get abortions, so I'm going to outlaw them entirely"
Thats like the president banning junk food because he's on a diet. It's not fair to the people who aren't on a diet and, while it's fair to (hypothetically) the majority of the country too because they are on diets, it is removing a deserved freedom from those that aren't dieting.
the same example can go for homosexuality, as well.

I'm not a fan of Obama, and I'm definitely not a fan of Romney (I look at their views on foreign policy and Romney might as well be shooting himself in the foot)

While I agree that the "lesser of two evils" tack isn't a good one, I've grown weary of our political system here, and I think we should just...well, for lack of a better word, purge the current house, senate, and everything else and start fresh with people who will friggin' work together, no matter their differences in life, and for chrissakes keep the churches out of it.
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Old 08-31-12, 02:06 AM   #5
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I think we've lost track of the whole "separation of church and state" thing that our forefathers pushed to have in this country.
In regards to the whole establishment disestablishment thing, I don't think its losing track so much as simply that a lot of people even understand it or why it exists.
Many of these people tend to have it as "seperation of church and state(unless its my version of church and state)".
Which of course comes right to the very reason why the seperation of church and state was put there and the very long line of historical examples of why it must be seperate.
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