What Microsoft Flight can teach us about Silent Hunter online.

Julhelm · 08-24-12, 10:24 AM

It's not down to opinions. Casual games mean Popcap, Zynga, King.com - simple tower defense, puzzle games etc. Everything else like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Asscreed, HAWX etc is referred to as hardcore games. And that's common usage in the game industry. Not just my opinion.

But I hear everything that isn't simhard is automatically "casual" or "arcade" which is just kneejerk for saying "I don't like it".

StarTrekMike · 08-24-12, 10:43 AM

I don't think the "what is hardcore" debate is what this thread is about.

It is pure symantics I am afraid.

Seeadler · 08-24-12, 11:30 AM

Ubisoft wants to go more the F2P way on the PC games market
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...-boxed-product

Julhelm · 08-24-12, 11:58 AM

I'd like to know which behind he pulled out that 93-95% piracy rate from.

SilentOtto · 08-24-12, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Julhelm

I'd like to know which behind he pulled out that 93-95% piracy rate from.

Here is a very interesting paper published in the Indian Journal of Law and Technology, Vol 5 (2009) about how they make up those statistics and all the errors and intentional disinformation involved in their creation by (well paid, ofc) consultant firms.

Great read if you're interested in the issue, it's about 20 pages.

I have read another shorter essay about the same issue with those piracy stats here in Spain, where they are bloated and exaggerated too, but it's in spanish only.

TheDarkWraith · 08-24-12, 03:42 PM

Let me quote their CEO:

"It's a way to get closer to your customers, to make sure you have a revenue"

I think he meant to say:

"It's a way to distance ourselves from our customers, to make sure we constantly give you the middle finger"

I should've been a translator or transcriptionist...I missed my calling

I swear those people 'upstairs' have absolutely no freakin clue...applies to the company I'm employed with also

SilentOtto · 08-24-12, 04:03 PM

I think usually when a firm grows big it's no longer directed by geeks, or anyone with knowledge on whatever their trade is. When firms grow, "money people" take charge, and then it's no longer about the trade, it's just about the money. Every single decision they take!

08-24-12, 10:43 AM	#2
StarTrekMike Navy Dude Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Made in Vermont Posts: 178 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	I don't think the "what is hardcore" debate is what this thread is about. It is pure symantics I am afraid. __________________ I think we lost em...hey whats that pinging sound?

08-24-12, 11:30 AM	#3
Seeadler Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Northern Germany Posts: 1,096 Downloads: 169 Uploads: 0	Ubisoft wants to go more the F2P way on the PC games market http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...-boxed-product __________________ -- Vapor-ware is always easier to sell because there's no limit what it can do!

08-24-12, 10:24 AM	#1
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	It's not down to opinions. Casual games mean Popcap, Zynga, King.com - simple tower defense, puzzle games etc. Everything else like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Asscreed, HAWX etc is referred to as hardcore games. And that's common usage in the game industry. Not just my opinion. But I hear everything that isn't simhard is automatically "casual" or "arcade" which is just kneejerk for saying "I don't like it".

08-24-12, 11:58 AM	#4
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	I'd like to know which behind he pulled out that 93-95% piracy rate from.

08-24-12, 03:42 PM	#6
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Let me quote their CEO: "It's a way to get closer to your customers, to make sure you have a revenue" I think he meant to say: "It's a way to distance ourselves from our customers, to make sure we constantly give you the middle finger" I should've been a translator or transcriptionist...I missed my calling I swear those people 'upstairs' have absolutely no freakin clue...applies to the company I'm employed with also

08-24-12, 04:03 PM	#7
SilentOtto Engineer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BF79 Posts: 209 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	I think usually when a firm grows big it's no longer directed by geeks, or anyone with knowledge on whatever their trade is. When firms grow, "money people" take charge, and then it's no longer about the trade, it's just about the money. Every single decision they take!