Yle's new take on Mannerheim stirs a hornet's nest

antikristuseke · 08-16-12, 06:42 AM

Yes CCIP, but that would make sense and the it is against the finns national character to do so.

Hottentot · 08-16-12, 07:04 AM

As someone on another forum so well put it:

Budget: small.
Amount of publicity: High.
Amount of outrage: Extreme.
The number of people going to see it, despite of promising not to: oh come on...
Profits: High.
Conclusion: Con of the year award nominee, 2012.

As a more personal opinion, I was surprised at first. I, like probably most people, thought "WTF". Then I started more and more finding the amount of holy outrage by different groups far more amusing than any emotion this film could have provoked in me. The more this develops, the more I'm laughing. People can be so hilarious sometimes when they are being serious.

August · 08-16-12, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

I, like probably most people, thought "WTF". Then I started more and more finding the amount of holy outrage by different groups far more amusing than any emotion this film could have provoked in me. The more this develops, the more I'm laughing. People can be so hilarious sometimes when they are being serious.

At least you Finns don't have films depicting your past presidents as vampire hunters or nazi werewolf killers,...yet.

Oberon · 08-16-12, 07:25 AM

I'm still waiting for the film version of Queen Victoria: Demon Hunter...

TLAM Strike · 08-18-12, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I'm still waiting for the film version of Queen Victoria: Demon Hunter...

Didn't 'Dr. Who' do that one already?

Sailor Steve · 08-18-12, 12:05 PM

Aye, and a grand adventure it was!

Hottentot · 08-16-12, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by August

At least you Finns don't have films depicting your past presidents as vampire hunters or nazi werewolf killers,...yet.

I don't actually think that would cause nearly as big fuss. Mannerheim is one of the most "legendary" (in every sense of the word) Finns. He is a mythical hero. No president has such status and likely won't ever have.

And thus the holy outrage is all the more hilarious to follow.

August · 08-16-12, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

No president has such status and likely won't ever have.

Oh yeah what about George Washington, "Father Of Our Country"? I'd say he'd have to be at least Mannheims equal in the hearts of our countrymen although they haven't made a zombie hunter movie about him,... yet!

But I wonder if this really is supposed to be "your" Mannheim being depicted. The scenes in the trailer link Dowly posted look awful tropical.

Could this possibly be something along the lines of the movie "The Last King of Scotland" which was about Idi Amin?

Hottentot · 08-16-12, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Oh yeah what about George Washington, "Father Of Our Country"? I'd say he'd have to be at least Mannheims equal in the hearts of our countrymen although they haven't made a zombie hunter movie about him,... yet!

I was speaking about the presidents of Finland. For what it's worth, we don't generally tend to be as...uh, enthusiastic about our politicians as (based on this forum) you guys over there.

Though now that I think about it, I actually made a silly contradiction right there in my previous post: Mannerheim in fact was president at one point, so I guess technically one of our presidents has achieved such legendary status then.

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But I wonder if this really is supposed to be "your" Mannheim being depicted. The scenes in the trailer link Dowly posted look awful tropical

That we'll have to see once the movie is out. What is certain is that it won't be a historical depiction, but that's fine by me because it never claimed it would be.

August · 08-16-12, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

I was speaking about the presidents of Finland. For what it's worth, we don't generally tend to be as...uh, enthusiastic about our politicians as (based on this forum) you guys over there.

I see your point but remember Washington was a General before he was a President. Now I don't know that much about Mannerheim but from what I read here him and Washington were very similar figures in our respective nations history.

Kongo Otto · 08-16-12, 08:13 AM

Soon in a Theater near you:

The Second World War - The Movie
Duration: 265 minutes
Dolby Surround
Director: James Cameron
Cast:
Jackie Chan as Dwight D. Eisenhower
Samuel L. Jackson as Hermann Göring
50 cent as George S.Patton
Jet Li as Erwin Rommel
Cate Blanchett as Adolf Hitler
Chuck Norris as Franklin "Roundhousekick" D. Roosevelt
Kenneth Brannagh as Bernard Montgomery
Robert Pattinson as OSS Vampyre
Dame Edna as Eva Braun
Robert Pattinson as Admiral Yamamoto
Bruce Willis as Winston Churchill
Dolph Lundgren as The Pope Pius XII
Denzel Washington as Admiral Nimitz

Special appearance:
Kristen Stewart as Joseph Stalin
Al Murray as The Pub Landlord

Rated: PG-13

Oberon · 08-16-12, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

Samuel L. Jackson as Hermann Göring

"Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherlovin' Spits on this motherlovin' Reich!"

Kongo Otto · 08-16-12, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

"I've had it with these motherlovin' Spits on this motherlovin' Reich!"

Dowly · 08-16-12, 08:24 AM

@Oberon

Penguin · 08-16-12, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kongo Otto

Soon in a Theater near you:

The Second World War - The Movie

This is about the only way I could ever imagine having a threesome with Hitler and Stalin.

08-16-12, 07:04 AM	#2
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	As someone on another forum so well put it: Budget: small. Amount of publicity: High. Amount of outrage: Extreme. The number of people going to see it, despite of promising not to: oh come on... Profits: High. Conclusion: Con of the year award nominee, 2012. As a more personal opinion, I was surprised at first. I, like probably most people, thought "WTF". Then I started more and more finding the amount of holy outrage by different groups far more amusing than any emotion this film could have provoked in me. The more this develops, the more I'm laughing. People can be so hilarious sometimes when they are being serious. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

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08-16-12, 06:42 AM	#1
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yes CCIP, but that would make sense and the it is against the finns national character to do so.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I'm still waiting for the film version of Queen Victoria: Demon Hunter...

08-16-12, 08:13 AM	#11
Kongo Otto Commodore Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Augsburg / Germany Posts: 631 Downloads: 203 Uploads: 0	Soon in a Theater near you: The Second World War - The Movie Duration: 265 minutes Dolby Surround Director: James Cameron Cast: Jackie Chan as Dwight D. Eisenhower Samuel L. Jackson as Hermann Göring 50 cent as George S.Patton Jet Li as Erwin Rommel Cate Blanchett as Adolf Hitler Chuck Norris as Franklin "Roundhousekick" D. Roosevelt Kenneth Brannagh as Bernard Montgomery Robert Pattinson as OSS Vampyre Dame Edna as Eva Braun Robert Pattinson as Admiral Yamamoto Bruce Willis as Winston Churchill Dolph Lundgren as The Pope Pius XII Denzel Washington as Admiral Nimitz Special appearance: Kristen Stewart as Joseph Stalin Al Murray as The Pub Landlord Rated: PG-13

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	@Oberon