Who is this?

Hylander_1314 · 08-04-12, 10:53 AM

Yeah, they said the same thing about Hearns. I'll never forget the fight he had with Sugar Ray, and the first connect he had, wasn't even his most powerful, and it sent Ray half way round the ring with a very suprized look on his face!

I think he broke his hand in the fight, and couldn't do what he was potentially capable of, and lost it in the end. But Hearns wasn't a duration fight, as most of his fights were over in the first 3 rounds.

That must have been cool to mix it up with Duran! Not every day you get that opportunity! Did he offer any advice or tips?

WernherVonTrapp · 08-04-12, 01:09 PM

Hmmmmm

, now you guys have me wondering how many of the ol' time boxers I can remember. I haven't been a sports fan (of any kind) in the last 10 years or so, but in the 70s & 80s, I even went to see professional tennis matches every year at Flushing Meadows, NY (the U.S. Open).

Now, let's see how many boxers I can remember:

Roberto "Stone Hands" Duran
Tommy "The Hit Man" Hearns
"Sugar" Ray Leonard
Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini
Sean O'Grady
Barry McGuigan
"Rockin" Robin Blake
Christy Elliott
Alexis Arguello
Hector Camacho
"Marvelous" Marvin Hagler
Julio Cesar Chavez
Tony "The Tiger" Baltazar
Wilfred Benitez
Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker
Marlon Starling
Edwin Rosario
Pinklon Thomas

Anyway, these are the ones I remember the most. It took me quite some time to recall/remember these names. I liked Heavyweights, but the real action was in the lighter weight categories.

Sailor Steve · 08-05-12, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WernherVonTrapp

Now, let's see how many boxers I can remember:

I watched Johansson beat Patterson. I watched Patterson beat Johansson. I watched liston beat Patterson. I watched Clay beat Liston.

Then I got bored. I know Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard by name. Mike Tyson. A couple others I would recognize if I heard them. That's about it.

aanker · 08-05-12, 10:25 AM

Thanks @I'm goin' down

I like boxing but am a novice and my favorite weight class is titled overseas.

(should mention Submarines) I bet there were some good bouts in the aft torpedo room!

Happy Hunting!

WernherVonTrapp · 08-05-12, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I watched Johansson beat Patterson. I watched Patterson beat Johansson. I watched liston beat Patterson. I watched Clay beat Liston.

Then I got bored. I know Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard by name. Mike Tyson. A couple others I would recognize if I heard them. That's about it.

I forgot about Sugar Ray Robinson! I knew there was another Sugar Ray before "Leonard" but couldn't recall. I don't remember if I ever saw Liston fight

, though remember the name Floyd Patterson. Yeah, I was a BIG boxing fan through the late 70s/80s, and then I just suddenly lost all interest.
Anyway, not many boxing fans will recall Christy Elliott. He was an up-and-coming boxer who was on the Irish Olympic team. I'm surprised that there is very little info about him on the web. It's been so many years that I can't remember, but I vaguely recall that he (very) briefly held some class of Champion title (maybe Bantamweight), but I honestly can't remember.

I knew him personally and was (briefly) very close friends with him back in the early 80s. His personal story, the one that I know, is very sad and tragic. BTW, I just found out (while searching the web) that he passed away in Jan., 2011.

Armistead · 08-05-12, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I watched Johansson beat Patterson. I watched Patterson beat Johansson. I watched liston beat Patterson. I watched Clay beat Liston.

Then I got bored. I know Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard by name. Mike Tyson. A couple others I would recognize if I heard them. That's about it.

You forgot to capitalize the L in the first Liston, just thought I would point it out.

Three years I've been waiting for you to make a mistake.

Sailor Steve · 08-05-12, 08:35 PM

You're not very observant then. I make mistakes all the time. Frau Kaleun has mentioned it several times, and several others at least once each.

Armistead · 08-04-12, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hylander_1314

Yeah, they said the same thing about Hearns. I'll never forget the fight he had with Sugar Ray, and the first connect he had, wasn't even his most powerful, and it sent Ray half way round the ring with a very suprized look on his face!

I think he broke his hand in the fight, and couldn't do what he was potentially capable of, and lost it in the end. But Hearns wasn't a duration fight, as most of his fights were over in the first 3 rounds.

That must have been cool to mix it up with Duran! Not every day you get that opportunity! Did he offer any advice or tips?

Not really, he came by for a quick visit, some photo's. I think he did about 6 rounds with different people, in and out. What was funny we saved our best for last, small guy, golden glove champ....he actually gave Duran a fit for the one round, you could tell Duran got serious, moreso when he got clocked a few times...Long time ago, Coach Al Lowe is dead now, but least they named it after him.

Hylander_1314 · 08-04-12, 05:27 PM

Ah well, at least you have the memory of having done it!

aanker · 08-04-12, 06:57 PM

Looks like one of the Klitschko brothers, not Neal :)

Happy Hunting!

I'm goin' down · 08-04-12, 09:28 PM

One of the greatest lightweights in the history of boxing. Before the first Leonard fight, which he won, he had only one loss in over 60 fights, and that was a ten round non-title fight with Estaban de Jesus right after he dethroned Ken Buchannon for the lightweight title. Duran fought de Jesus twice after that, during de Jesus' prime, and he knocked him out both times.

Duran once knocked a horse down on a bet. He ended the career of one fighter, who was unconscious for an hour after Duran knocked him out. Duran said that man was lucky, and that if he had been hit with a clean shot, he would not have survived. Knockout power in both hands, and extremely skilled defensively. Terrific fighter.

Wikipedia:

regarded as one of the greatest boxers of all time. A versatile brawler in the ring, he was nicknamed "Manos de Piedra" ("Stone Fists," although the literal translation is "Hands of Stone") during his career.[1]

In 2002, he was chosen by The Ring to be the 5th greatest fighter of the last 80 years.[2] Bert Sugar rates him as the 8th greatest fighter of all-time and the Associated Press voted Duran as the #1 lightweight of the 20th century.[3] Many even consider him the greatest lightweight of all time. He held world titles at four different weights***8212;lightweight (1972***8211;79), welterweight (1980), light middleweight (1983***8211;84) and middleweight (1989). He was the second boxer to have fought a span of five decades, the first being Jack Johnson.

He finally retired in January 2002 at age 50 (having previously retired in 1998) following a bad car crash in October 2001, with a professional record of 119 fights, 103 wins with 70 KOs. Up until the second Ray Leonard fight, he was trained by legendary boxing trainer Ray Arcel.

Durán is one of the rare men in boxing history to win fights in 5 separate decades. He registered wins in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and the 2000s, putting him in the company of Jack Johnson, who had wins in the 1890s, 1900s, 1910s, 1920s and 1930s.

08-04-12, 01:09 PM	#2
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	Hmmmmm, now you guys have me wondering how many of the ol' time boxers I can remember. I haven't been a sports fan (of any kind) in the last 10 years or so, but in the 70s & 80s, I even went to see professional tennis matches every year at Flushing Meadows, NY (the U.S. Open). Now, let's see how many boxers I can remember: Roberto "Stone Hands" Duran Tommy "The Hit Man" Hearns "Sugar" Ray Leonard Ray "Boom Boom" Mancini Sean O'Grady Barry McGuigan "Rockin" Robin Blake Christy Elliott Alexis Arguello Hector Camacho "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler Julio Cesar Chavez Tony "The Tiger" Baltazar Wilfred Benitez Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker Marlon Starling Edwin Rosario Pinklon Thomas Anyway, these are the ones I remember the most. It took me quite some time to recall/remember these names. I liked Heavyweights, but the real action was in the lighter weight categories. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate Last edited by WernherVonTrapp; 08-05-12 at 10:48 AM. Reason: Memory Update

08-05-12, 10:25 AM	#4
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	Thanks @I'm goin' down I like boxing but am a novice and my favorite weight class is titled overseas. (should mention Submarines) I bet there were some good bouts in the aft torpedo room! Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

08-05-12, 08:35 PM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	You're not very observant then. I make mistakes all the time. Frau Kaleun has mentioned it several times, and several others at least once each. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-04-12, 05:27 PM	#9
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Ah well, at least you have the memory of having done it! __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

08-04-12, 06:57 PM	#10
aanker Pacific Thunder Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yellow Sea Posts: 1,896 Downloads: 236 Uploads: 14	Looks like one of the Klitschko brothers, not Neal :) Happy Hunting! __________________ " Bless those who serve beneath the deep, Through lonely hours their vigil keep. May peace their mission ever be, Protect each one we ask of thee. Bless those at home who wait and pray, For their return by night and day."

08-04-12, 10:53 AM	#1
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Yeah, they said the same thing about Hearns. I'll never forget the fight he had with Sugar Ray, and the first connect he had, wasn't even his most powerful, and it sent Ray half way round the ring with a very suprized look on his face! I think he broke his hand in the fight, and couldn't do what he was potentially capable of, and lost it in the end. But Hearns wasn't a duration fight, as most of his fights were over in the first 3 rounds. That must have been cool to mix it up with Duran! Not every day you get that opportunity! Did he offer any advice or tips? __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

08-04-12, 09:28 PM	#11
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	Duran One of the greatest lightweights in the history of boxing. Before the first Leonard fight, which he won, he had only one loss in over 60 fights, and that was a ten round non-title fight with Estaban de Jesus right after he dethroned Ken Buchannon for the lightweight title. Duran fought de Jesus twice after that, during de Jesus' prime, and he knocked him out both times. Duran once knocked a horse down on a bet. He ended the career of one fighter, who was unconscious for an hour after Duran knocked him out. Duran said that man was lucky, and that if he had been hit with a clean shot, he would not have survived. Knockout power in both hands, and extremely skilled defensively. Terrific fighter. Wikipedia: regarded as one of the greatest boxers of all time. A versatile brawler in the ring, he was nicknamed "Manos de Piedra" ("Stone Fists," although the literal translation is "Hands of Stone") during his career.[1] In 2002, he was chosen by The Ring to be the 5th greatest fighter of the last 80 years.[2] Bert Sugar rates him as the 8th greatest fighter of all-time and the Associated Press voted Duran as the #1 lightweight of the 20th century.[3] Many even consider him the greatest lightweight of all time. He held world titles at four different weights*8212;lightweight (19728211;79), welterweight (1980), light middleweight (1983**8211;84) and middleweight (1989). He was the second boxer to have fought a span of five decades, the first being Jack Johnson. He finally retired in January 2002 at age 50 (having previously retired in 1998) following a bad car crash in October 2001, with a professional record of 119 fights, 103 wins with 70 KOs. Up until the second Ray Leonard fight, he was trained by legendary boxing trainer Ray Arcel. Durán is one of the rare men in boxing history to win fights in 5 separate decades. He registered wins in the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s and the 2000s, putting him in the company of Jack Johnson, who had wins in the 1890s, 1900s, 1910s, 1920s and 1930s.