Sir David Attenborough says we in serious trouble if we dont change our ways.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Codz

Not interstellar colonization(unless there are massive advances in spacecraft propulsion). Interplanetary colonization is very possible with the proper budget. The problem is, many politicians are unwilling to look to the future and would rather continue the endless cycle of "fixing internal issues".

What? Is there no room on the Russian rockets?

[Codz]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What? Is there no room on the Russian rockets?

The current batch of Russian rockets aren't good for much more than LEO operations. NASA is currently developing several options for BEO operations.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Codz

The current batch of Russian rockets aren't good for much more than LEO operations. NASA is currently developing several options for BEO operations.

My point is, the USA does not much support space travel anymore.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

. However, as a industrialized nation(US), growth was exceptionally fast. I would suspect decline could go just as fast.

That's about what i'm saying. We may or we may not see that drastic change (fall?) within our lifetimes, but given the way things are going and how they're being run, it's a safe bet that ship has already departed. The question really is, how long tell it gets here? We may see it, we may not. Odds are we won't see it, but our children or grandchildren will.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My point is, the USA does not much support space travel anymore.

Yeah. Colonization? HA! We'd be lucky to set foot on the moon again. I doubt we ever will.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

That's about what i'm saying. We may or we may not see that drastic change (fall?) within our lifetimes, but given the way things are going and how they're being run, it's a safe bet that ship has already departed. The question really is, how long tell it gets here? We may see it, we may not. Odds are we won't see it, but our children or grandchildren will.



Yeah. Colonization? HA! We'd be lucky to set foot on the moon again. I doubt we ever will.

I don't think we will see the changes in our time. My two kids(17 and 14) have recognized issues in the world. My one daughter said she wants to adopt.

The moon again? Not with the current administration.

[Codz]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I don't think we will see the changes in our time.

Most people in the year 1875 probably didn't think that the world would progress very fast either. Less than one hundred years later we invented prop aircraft, jet aircraft, nuclear bombs, nuclear energy, manned and artificial space flight, and we walked on the Moon.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Codz

Most people in the year 1875 probably didn't think that the world would progress very fast either. Less than one hundred years later we invented prop aircraft, jet aircraft, nuclear bombs, nuclear energy, manned and artificial space flight, and we walked on the Moon.

Yes sir. As I posted with Ducimus, the USA industrial growth has been nothing short of astonishing. However, the growth IMO, is not as aggressive as it was. I don't believe there will be any astronomical breakthroughs in the coming decades.

[Codz]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My point is, the USA does not much support space travel anymore.

Just because we retired one type of ship doesn't mean we're done. We had an even longer gap between the Shuttle and the Apollo capsules in the 70's and NASA did just fine. NASA has recieved funding to develop a new rocket and capsule designed for BEO missions. We also have an incredibly advanced rover heading to Mars. We have astronauts on the ISS. We have a probe that's been actively exploring the Saturn system for years. To top it off, we have probes en route to Pluto, Ceres, and Jupiter. I'd hardly call all of that "not much".

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Codz

Just because we retired one type of ship doesn't mean we're done. We had an even longer gap between the Shuttle and the Apollo capsules in the 70's and NASA did just fine. NASA has recieved funding to develop a new rocket and capsule designed for BEO missions. We also have an incredibly advanced rover heading to Mars. We have astronauts on the ISS. We have a probe that's been actively exploring the Saturn system for years. To top it off, we have probes en route to Pluto, Ceres, and Jupiter. I'd hardly call all of that "not much".

We have been probing for decades. The rovers have been to Mars. The ISS looks to be a good will gesture to me. Currently, we ain't got nothing getting the USA to space. I do not hang my hat on space manned flight with the current administration.

[Codz]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

We have been probing for decades. The rovers have been to Mars. The ISS looks to be a good will gesture to me. Currently, we ain't got nothing getting the USA to space. I do not hang my hat on space manned flight with the current administration.

The ISS has made numerable contributions to Earth ans space science. Those probes bring back an incredible amount of scientific information and have more "bang for the buck" than any single program that I've seen.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Codz

The ISS has made numerable contributions to Earth ans space science. Those probes bring back an incredible amount of scientific information and have more "bang for the buck" than any single program that I've seen.

I agree the ISS has provided some scientific finds. But I also believe it is good will gesture. Probes are more bang for the buck. I agree. I still stand that space exploration is not supported by this administration. Looking at your signature, space and all it entails is your interest. As such, what has the current administration accomplished in moving forward with space exploration? The shuttle has been retired. I believe private investment is engineering craft for manned space flight.