How do you use UUVs?

PurpleCow · 01-16-06, 08:11 PM

The range of the UUV is so short, like 2-3 nm, how do people use them? I could see if they had a much longer range you could use them to scout out way ahead or behind you. How do you all use them?

- PC

TLAM Strike · 01-16-06, 08:12 PM

Poor mans Towed Array for when you lose one or don't have one...

They are good in minefields too...

LuftWolf · 01-16-06, 10:22 PM

Also good in sub vs sub battles.

If you fire a UUV when you fire your torpedoes, expecting counterfire, you can use it to triangulate the position of your opponent and his incoming torpedoes using it in combination with ownship sensors after you have done some minutes of evasive maneoverng at high speed to clear the datum of the incoming torpedoes.

swimsalot · 01-17-06, 12:21 AM

2-3nm range?
I consistantly pick up UUV ctcs at 10nm, depending on platform.
Launch a UUV above/below the layer, do a little sprint while it "watches your back".
You can be below a hard layer and listen for deep ctc while the UUV is above listening for shallow ones. I won't tell ya what it is, but if you get a UUV ctc, you can slow and come up to get a listen fpr yourself.
I have found the UUV to be about the single most important tool in torpedo evasion.

TLAM Strike · 01-17-06, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimsalot

2-3nm range?

Range as in how far it can swim.

Bellman · 01-17-06, 03:08 AM

We should always be happy to learn from expert bubblehead vets so here are some extracts from their postings
which I hope expand on the UUV posts above:-

Positives:-

1.Fish:
You can use it to look over a reef or around a seamount.
And it's very accurate when you use it in active mode when it gets hot.
Launched below 520 feet, and with depth setting below 520 the UUV will not generate TIW.

2.Molon Labe:
A UUV contact + spherical/cylindrical contact is a great way to find out exactly where an ASROC or Mk50
dropped so you can react quickly.

3.JoGary:
One trick i use when torps are near me is to launch another UUV and have 2 in the water. This way you can
get exact positions of the torps as they move and dont need to wait for TMA updates.

Negatives-

1.Molon Labe:
The main downside of the UUV is that it will often reveal your location.
The UUV can only go 2.5 miles, so when you find one you know the launching sub is close.
The other downside of the UUV actually relates to aTMA. If you are using aTMA, and there are a lot
of contacts out there, firing a UUV is the last thing you should do.

2.TLAM:
But the UUV can be the worst thing in your inventory if you don't know when to leave them on the pier.
On the Kilo 95% of the time I don't carry them since...
A) They take up very scarce torpedo space.
B) They take up your even scarcer wire guide capable tubes.
C) They are quite useless in ASuW, which is what the Kilo is meant for.

This severe filleting of the authors posts does not do them justice - but you can read more at:
http://www.orionwarrior.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100

Kapitan · 01-17-06, 05:25 AM

also UUV's are good decoys and also targets for torpedos countermesures we call them

LuftWolf · 01-17-06, 08:00 PM

I wouldn't try to use the UUV as a decoy.

Not really good for that.

Kapitan · 01-18-06, 02:39 AM

you wouldnt but i would as last resort of if it was in water anyway use it

Fish · 01-18-06, 06:07 AM

A torp simply ignores a UUV. However it doesn't ignores enemy torps (when enabled).

01-16-06, 08:11 PM	#1
PurpleCow A-ganger Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 75 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	How do you use UUVs? The range of the UUV is so short, like 2-3 nm, how do people use them? I could see if they had a much longer range you could use them to scout out way ahead or behind you. How do you all use them? - PC

01-16-06, 08:12 PM	#2
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Poor mans Towed Array for when you lose one or don't have one... They are good in minefields too... __________________

01-16-06, 10:22 PM	#3
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Also good in sub vs sub battles. If you fire a UUV when you fire your torpedoes, expecting counterfire, you can use it to triangulate the position of your opponent and his incoming torpedoes using it in combination with ownship sensors after you have done some minutes of evasive maneoverng at high speed to clear the datum of the incoming torpedoes. __________________ LW

01-17-06, 03:08 AM	#6
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	We should always be happy to learn from expert bubblehead vets so here are some extracts from their postings which I hope expand on the UUV posts above:- Positives:- 1.Fish: You can use it to look over a reef or around a seamount. And it's very accurate when you use it in active mode when it gets hot. Launched below 520 feet, and with depth setting below 520 the UUV will not generate TIW. 2.Molon Labe: A UUV contact + spherical/cylindrical contact is a great way to find out exactly where an ASROC or Mk50 dropped so you can react quickly. 3.JoGary: One trick i use when torps are near me is to launch another UUV and have 2 in the water. This way you can get exact positions of the torps as they move and dont need to wait for TMA updates. Negatives- 1.Molon Labe: The main downside of the UUV is that it will often reveal your location. The UUV can only go 2.5 miles, so when you find one you know the launching sub is close. The other downside of the UUV actually relates to aTMA. If you are using aTMA, and there are a lot of contacts out there, firing a UUV is the last thing you should do. 2.TLAM: But the UUV can be the worst thing in your inventory if you don't know when to leave them on the pier. On the Kilo 95% of the time I don't carry them since... A) They take up very scarce torpedo space. B) They take up your even scarcer wire guide capable tubes. C) They are quite useless in ASuW, which is what the Kilo is meant for. This severe filleting of the authors posts does not do them justice - but you can read more at: http://www.orionwarrior.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100 __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

01-17-06, 05:25 AM	#7
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	also UUV's are good decoys and also targets for torpedos countermesures we call them __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

01-17-06, 12:21 AM	#4
swimsalot Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Seattle, wa usa Posts: 102 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	2-3nm range? I consistantly pick up UUV ctcs at 10nm, depending on platform. Launch a UUV above/below the layer, do a little sprint while it "watches your back". You can be below a hard layer and listen for deep ctc while the UUV is above listening for shallow ones. I won't tell ya what it is, but if you get a UUV ctc, you can slow and come up to get a listen fpr yourself. I have found the UUV to be about the single most important tool in torpedo evasion.

01-17-06, 08:00 PM	#8
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I wouldn't try to use the UUV as a decoy. Not really good for that. __________________ LW

01-18-06, 02:39 AM	#9
Kapitan Sub Test Pilot Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK + Canada Posts: 7,130 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 7	you wouldnt but i would as last resort of if it was in water anyway use it __________________ DONT FORGET if you like a post to nominate it by using the blue diamond Find out about Museum Ships here: https://www.museumships.us/ Flickr for all my pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/131313936@N03/ Navy general board articles: https://www.navygeneralboard.com/author/aegis/

01-18-06, 06:07 AM	#10
Fish Eternal Patrol Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,923 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A torp simply ignores a UUV. However it doesn't ignores enemy torps (when enabled).