SH3 Tech and Troubleshooting Index - Page 2

VegaBond · 11-28-05, 09:44 AM

Anyone get BSOD after game exit?

Drebbel · 12-18-05, 03:06 PM

BSOD as in B*ll Sh*t On Delevery ?

Mustang · 01-05-06, 06:35 PM

As in,
Blue Screen of Death(The Defualt Protection Error screen windows OSs' give when they have a *usually* unrecoverable crash until it is forced into a Cold Boot.)

I have an odd problem, I have an ATI gfx card. It can't run SH3 on the surface but it does great when submerged I think it is because the sea surface uses a higher shader and my Radeon 7500 is old it has 128 ddr and a 1,5ghz oricessor with 512 ddr.

Anywho, when I came online one day my comp told me to update to DirectX9.0c December Release. So I did, after this it informed me my Catalyst(ATI's Driver suite) needed to be updated. After doing both MY SH3 won't load!

It goes to the CD Checker when it passes that, nothing. I thought it was just taking its time but I waited hours and it never took hours before and still nothing. It is like after CD Check the process is terminated. I'm noticing the new drivers are doing that alot with my games. What is the deal, anyone know how I can fix this?

Mustang

Gizzmoe · 01-06-06, 01:57 AM

Mustang, delete or rename both wmv video files in data\movies\intro, that should fix the problem.

Mustang · 01-06-06, 04:48 AM

okay,
I deleted both and it was still a no-go so I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted and now SH3 keeps telling me about an exception error with this info,

Code:

AppName: sh3.exe	 AppVer: 1.4.0.1	 ModName: msctf.dll
ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180	 Offset: 00030c9a

I tried to get the detailed report but it was huge and wouldn't allow me to C'n'P it.

the error seems to come from the Detection tool, now everytime I install SH3 it dosn't ask me for my CD-Key and it dosn't ask me to reboot anymore.

Gizzmoe · 01-06-06, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang

now everytime I install SH3 it dosn't ask me for my CD-Key and it dosn't ask me to reboot anymore.

ThatÂ´s more or less a feature, not a bug. The uninstaller doesnÂ´t remove Starforce. If the protection system is broken it could help to remove the Starforce driver with this tool:
http://onlinesecurity-on.com/downloads/sfdrvrem.zip

Then reboot your system, start SH3, it then reinstalls SF.

Mustang · 01-06-06, 06:18 AM

Done and done,
now we pass the first grey screen with a white loading bar but when it goes to the small banner like load bar with the games cover art on it with a blue load bar, before it can even try to load the blue it crashes.

Gizzmoe · 01-06-06, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang

Done and done,
now we pass the first grey screen with a white loading bar but when it goes to the small banner like load bar with the games cover art on it with a blue load bar, before it can even try to load the blue it crashes.

I suggest that you try to reinstall it again. After you have uninstalled it manually delete the main SH3 dir and also mydocuments\sh3 (make a backup of mydocuments\sh3, otherwise you would lose your campaign). Very often after a normal uninstall some files wonÂ´t be deleted by the uninstaller and those files can cause trouble under some circumstances.

SG_Igor · 01-15-06, 06:09 AM

My first post here, but heavy one... or is it?

I have problems with graphics in SH3 after replacing ATI 9550 with FX5900. Smoke coming from funnel is black, but only until I look into the sun or through binoculars, when it becomes transparent white, so it is much harder to spot the ship from distance. Here`s an example:

... comparing to normal view:

As you see, there are bugs with sea foam too... it`s white, but -again- after bringing the sun into scene, or using binoculars, it gets grey... but at least this is not something so important for gameplay - smoke is real problem.

Now, I`ve noticed two things: first, when I pause the game, switch the task with some other program (say, Internet Explorer or anything else), then return to game and continue, smoke and sea foam are back to normal, but only until I look at the sun, when they become ugly again. Second, sun is too bright - after pausing the game and switching the task, it becomes normal and all graphics errors are gone. Obviously there is some connection between smoke and sunlight:

I`ve already reinstalled DirectX 9.0c, latest Forceware drivers and the game itself, but with no effect. FX5900 is working fine btw... there`s no problems in some other games (Rome Total War and Call of duty), nor in 3DMark 2001/03/05.

Can someone help me or give some hint, please?

Proud member of WaW

Bluewings · 01-15-06, 09:25 AM

Hi SG_Igor and welcome aboard

If I was you , I would try some older Forceware drivers .
The FX5900 is a DirectX 9 card only and not a 9.0c , which could be the reason why you have some light troubles .

It might have something to do with the way the pixel shaders interact with the videocard 's memory :hmm:

Cheers .

SG_Igor · 01-15-06, 08:31 PM

Thx Bluewings, I`ll try that that too.

Isitol · 01-16-06, 10:33 AM

Hello,

(I am French)
I have the same problem as SG_Igor!
I have a fx 5900xt Leadtek with ForceWares 66.93. The last pilots do not arangent anything!

I did not find any solution with this problem of smoke.

Help!

Bluewings · 01-16-06, 05:05 PM

Salut isitol et bienvenue a bord

Cherche des pilotes plus anciens ou utilises ceux de ton disque d 'installation (Leadtek) .

Les derniers pilores sont concus pour DirectX 9.0c alors que ta XT est seulement une DirectX 9 .

Bonne chance

a+

Cheers .

Isitol · 01-17-06, 04:39 AM

Re,

Merci Bluewings, je suis content de voir qu'il y a des gars qui parle et lise le FranÃ§ais par ici.

Pour ce problÃ¨me de fumÃ©e, j'avais dÃ©jÃ essayÃ© avec des anciens pilotes et mÃªme avec celui fourni avec la carte graphique, mais Ã§a n'a pas rÃ©solu le problÃ¨me.

A part changer de carte graphique, personne Ã une solution Ã ce problÃ¨me ?

------------------------
Re,

Thank you Bluewings, I am glad to see that there is of the guy who speaks and reads French by here.

For this problem of smoke, I had already tested with former pilots and even with that provided with the graphics board, but that did not solve the problem.

With share to change graphics board, anybody with a solution with this problem?

Isitol · 01-17-06, 08:29 AM

Re,

Ca marche avec les pilotes du CD de ma carte graphique (Leadtek), tu avais raison Bluewings !

Chose importante : il faut dÃ©sinstaller les pilotes graphique avant d'installer les anciens pilotes, chose que je n'avais pas fait auparavant.

Plus de problÃ¨me de fumÃ©e, mais malheureusement les graphismes sont beaucoup moins jolis maintenant.
Je crois que je vais remettre mes ForceWares 66.93, tant pis pour la belle fumÃ©e.

Merci Bluewings !

@+

---------------------------

Re,

It goes with the pilots of CD of my graphics board (Leadtek), you were right Bluewings!

Important thing: it is necessary for dÃ©sinstaller the pilots graph before installing the former pilots, thing which I had not made before.

More problem of smoke, but unfortunately graphics are much less pretty now.
I believe that I will give my ForceWares 66.93, so much worse for beautiful smoke.

Thank you Bluewings!

@+

01-06-06, 04:48 AM	#20
Mustang Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 102 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	okay, I deleted both and it was still a no-go so I uninstalled, rebooted, reinstalled, rebooted and now SH3 keeps telling me about an exception error with this info, Code: AppName: sh3.exe AppVer: 1.4.0.1 ModName: msctf.dll ModVer: 5.1.2600.2180 Offset: 00030c9a I tried to get the detailed report but it was huge and wouldn't allow me to C'n'P it. the error seems to come from the Detection tool, now everytime I install SH3 it dosn't ask me for my CD-Key and it dosn't ask me to reboot anymore.

01-15-06, 09:25 AM	#25
Bluewings Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hi SG_Igor and welcome aboard If I was you , I would try some older Forceware drivers . The FX5900 is a DirectX 9 card only and not a 9.0c , which could be the reason why you have some light troubles . It might have something to do with the way the pixel shaders interact with the videocard 's memory :hmm: Cheers . __________________ I say what I mean and I do what I say

01-16-06, 05:05 PM	#28
Bluewings Torpedoman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Posts: 115 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Salut isitol et bienvenue a bord Cherche des pilotes plus anciens ou utilises ceux de ton disque d 'installation (Leadtek) . Les derniers pilores sont concus pour DirectX 9.0c alors que ta XT est seulement une DirectX 9 . Bonne chance a+ Cheers . __________________ I say what I mean and I do what I say

11-28-05, 09:44 AM	#16
VegaBond Swabbie Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 14 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Anyone get BSOD after game exit?

12-18-05, 03:06 PM	#17
Drebbel Dutch Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Almost at periscope death ! Posts: 1,665 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	BSOD as in Bll Sht On Delevery ?

01-05-06, 06:35 PM	#18
Mustang Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 102 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	As in, Blue Screen of Death(The Defualt Protection Error screen windows OSs' give when they have a usually unrecoverable crash until it is forced into a Cold Boot.) I have an odd problem, I have an ATI gfx card. It can't run SH3 on the surface but it does great when submerged I think it is because the sea surface uses a higher shader and my Radeon 7500 is old it has 128 ddr and a 1,5ghz oricessor with 512 ddr. Anywho, when I came online one day my comp told me to update to DirectX9.0c December Release. So I did, after this it informed me my Catalyst(ATI's Driver suite) needed to be updated. After doing both MY SH3 won't load! It goes to the CD Checker when it passes that, nothing. I thought it was just taking its time but I waited hours and it never took hours before and still nothing. It is like after CD Check the process is terminated. I'm noticing the new drivers are doing that alot with my games. What is the deal, anyone know how I can fix this? Mustang

01-06-06, 01:57 AM	#19
Gizzmoe Silent Hunter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 3,668 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Mustang, delete or rename both wmv video files in data\movies\intro, that should fix the problem.

01-06-06, 06:18 AM	#22
Mustang Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 102 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Done and done, now we pass the first grey screen with a white loading bar but when it goes to the small banner like load bar with the games cover art on it with a blue load bar, before it can even try to load the blue it crashes.

01-15-06, 06:09 AM	#24
SG_Igor Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Serbia Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	My first post here, but heavy one... or is it? I have problems with graphics in SH3 after replacing ATI 9550 with FX5900. Smoke coming from funnel is black, but only until I look into the sun or through binoculars, when it becomes transparent white, so it is much harder to spot the ship from distance. Here`s an example: ... comparing to normal view: As you see, there are bugs with sea foam too... it`s white, but -again- after bringing the sun into scene, or using binoculars, it gets grey... but at least this is not something so important for gameplay - smoke is real problem. Now, I`ve noticed two things: first, when I pause the game, switch the task with some other program (say, Internet Explorer or anything else), then return to game and continue, smoke and sea foam are back to normal, but only until I look at the sun, when they become ugly again. Second, sun is too bright - after pausing the game and switching the task, it becomes normal and all graphics errors are gone. Obviously there is some connection between smoke and sunlight: I`ve already reinstalled DirectX 9.0c, latest Forceware drivers and the game itself, but with no effect. FX5900 is working fine btw... there`s no problems in some other games (Rome Total War and Call of duty), nor in 3DMark 2001/03/05. Can someone help me or give some hint, please? Proud member of WaW

01-15-06, 08:31 PM	#26
SG_Igor Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Serbia Posts: 7 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thx Bluewings, I`ll try that that too.

01-16-06, 10:33 AM	#27
Isitol Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: France Posts: 20 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Hello, (I am French) I have the same problem as SG_Igor! I have a fx 5900xt Leadtek with ForceWares 66.93. The last pilots do not arangent anything! I did not find any solution with this problem of smoke. Help!

01-17-06, 04:39 AM	#29
Isitol Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: France Posts: 20 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Re, Merci Bluewings, je suis content de voir qu'il y a des gars qui parle et lise le FranÃ§ais par ici. Pour ce problÃ¨me de fumÃ©e, j'avais dÃ©jÃ essayÃ© avec des anciens pilotes et mÃªme avec celui fourni avec la carte graphique, mais Ã§a n'a pas rÃ©solu le problÃ¨me. A part changer de carte graphique, personne Ã une solution Ã ce problÃ¨me ? ------------------------ Re, Thank you Bluewings, I am glad to see that there is of the guy who speaks and reads French by here. For this problem of smoke, I had already tested with former pilots and even with that provided with the graphics board, but that did not solve the problem. With share to change graphics board, anybody with a solution with this problem?

01-17-06, 08:29 AM	#30
Isitol Watch Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: France Posts: 20 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Re, Ca marche avec les pilotes du CD de ma carte graphique (Leadtek), tu avais raison Bluewings ! Chose importante : il faut dÃ©sinstaller les pilotes graphique avant d'installer les anciens pilotes, chose que je n'avais pas fait auparavant. Plus de problÃ¨me de fumÃ©e, mais malheureusement les graphismes sont beaucoup moins jolis maintenant. Je crois que je vais remettre mes ForceWares 66.93, tant pis pour la belle fumÃ©e. Merci Bluewings ! @+ --------------------------- Re, It goes with the pilots of CD of my graphics board (Leadtek), you were right Bluewings! Important thing: it is necessary for dÃ©sinstaller the pilots graph before installing the former pilots, thing which I had not made before. More problem of smoke, but unfortunately graphics are much less pretty now. I believe that I will give my ForceWares 66.93, so much worse for beautiful smoke. Thank you Bluewings! @+