German court bans circumcision

August · 06-28-12, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

I will invent a new religion:
Everyone of my followers...

As if anyone would follow you...

Seriously, circumcision is a pretty common practice over here and it has nothing at all to do with religion.

antikristuseke · 06-28-12, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by August

As if anyone would follow you...

Seriously, circumcision is a pretty common practice over here and it has nothing at all to do with religion.

It has nothing to do with medical benefits either. IIRC the practice of circumcision became popular when there was widespread belief that masturbation was bad and circumcision was utilized as a means to keep boys from masturbating. Nowadays it seems to be more about fashion and tradition than anything else.

August · 06-28-12, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

It has nothing to do with medical benefits either. IIRC the practice of circumcision became popular when there was widespread belief that masturbation was bad and circumcision was utilized as a means to keep boys from masturbating. Nowadays it seems to be more about fashion and tradition than anything else.

Maybe that's the reason given in your country but here it's always been about cleanliness. Besides, if that truly was the aim then it failed horribly. Circumcision does nothing to prevent masturbation. Especially when it was performed, like mine was, in infancy.

antikristuseke · 06-29-12, 12:40 AM

Here circumcision is not popular, I know exactly one person who has been circumcised and he had it done last year as his personal choice last year.

I was talking about the United States in my reply to you. One of the leading proponents of circumcision at the time when it became popular was John Harvey Kellogg, who supported it for the reason I mentioned in my previous post. If my memory serves me right to do it because of cleanliness came up several decades after that. Though that being said I have only looked into this with for a limited time for no reason other than curiosity so my information is not exhaustive by any means.

06-29-12, 02:08 AM

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Just want to put your mind at ease Skybird and let you and The First International Symposium on Circumcision know that my foreskinless penis works just fine and I am extremely pleased with its performance.

The beauty of Skybirds link is that it happens to include from a medical view people ""who for now many years I have say are frauds and not medicinals at all they are charlatans and kwacks""

Catfish · 06-29-12, 03:23 AM

But it is not about religion.
If a god can only part his followers from others by checking for circumcision or the "lost leg" i mentioned ?

I thought i had made this clear:
I have nothing against a person who does whatever with his/her own body - for religious or other reasons when he/she can decide him/herself.

A 2-year-old child can't.

Circumcision at the age of 2 is causing pain (later remembering subconsciously or not) without the child having any chance to understand it nor to decide about it. And it is not about removing an appendix, indeed it is a bit senseless nowadays. If you go for cleanliness, if you are afraid as a parent to tell your kid how to wash the body at places "that may not be mentioned", you will probably also fail in other education.

06-29-12, 12:40 AM	#4
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Here circumcision is not popular, I know exactly one person who has been circumcised and he had it done last year as his personal choice last year. I was talking about the United States in my reply to you. One of the leading proponents of circumcision at the time when it became popular was John Harvey Kellogg, who supported it for the reason I mentioned in my previous post. If my memory serves me right to do it because of cleanliness came up several decades after that. Though that being said I have only looked into this with for a limited time for no reason other than curiosity so my information is not exhaustive by any means.

06-29-12, 03:23 AM	#6
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,804 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	But it is not about religion. If a god can only part his followers from others by checking for circumcision or the "lost leg" i mentioned ? I thought i had made this clear: I have nothing against a person who does whatever with his/her own body - for religious or other reasons when he/she can decide him/herself. A 2-year-old child can't. Circumcision at the age of 2 is causing pain (later remembering subconsciously or not) without the child having any chance to understand it nor to decide about it. And it is not about removing an appendix, indeed it is a bit senseless nowadays. If you go for cleanliness, if you are afraid as a parent to tell your kid how to wash the body at places "that may not be mentioned", you will probably also fail in other education.