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Old 06-28-12, 07:41 AM   #11
NeonSamurai
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Just to remind you that there is little if no empirical evidence to bolster this claim, amongst psyhcologists this claim is pasisonately discussed, at least it was like that at my time.

The claim is mostly given because the psychoanalytical projection defence mechanism is a known concept to the wide public and nicely serves the purpose of claiming a rethorical victory.

It compares to "women not ready for sex are frigid", and "When she says No, deep inside she means Yes."

Or in short, I think for the most the claim is illustrating a cliche. Or compares to depicting critics of Islam as being "phobic" of it.
I agree and disagree. In this case I was referring to the most rancid promoters. There has definitely been a trend among very public and vocal anti-gay people, of engaging in gay relationships in secret. Do I think everyone who hates or fears 'fags' are secretly gay? No, but I would not be surprised if a number of them feel this way because of their own internal uncertainties. Others feel this way because of dogma or tradition.

As for empirical evidences, of course there is none, there can't possibly be any given the nature of the beast. How can you quantify and measure such a thing empirically? This is aside from the fact that I reject concepts of empirical evidence as being non-scientific (you cannot prove things with facts, only disprove them).

As for Islam, I think there are plenty of people that are phobic, in that their fear and issues are largely irrational, even if they do present a rational front for it.

Anyhow forgive me if my posts are not up to my usual standards, I am very busy and also rather sleep deprived. Both of which limit my ability to give carefully thought out statements.
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