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Old 06-23-12, 02:09 PM   #61
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Forgive me SS for being a troll in my own thread.
The thread title itself is considered trolling by some.

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It is the following that should have me somber instead:

" I'm not even a believer anymore, but even I can see how twisted your so-called philosophy is. "

Turning your back on the faith and denying the only way to salvation is no laughing matter.
I'm not laughing. I am, however, always honest. My belief and its ramifications are subject for a different thread. Yours are the very core of your thread. Anyone can claim to be anything. While you claim to be Christian you have never once preached Christ in anything you've said. You preach hate, pure and simple. I can't judge your innermost thoughts, but what you say here is the exact opposite of what the Bible says a Christian in supposed to be. Talk is cheap. "By their fruits shall you know them."
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Old 06-23-12, 02:11 PM   #62
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My question was why are the 'Indians' 'murdering savages'?
Well, this would most likely have been the opinion of those who had to bury
their white victims. And my also have been those who made a general study
of how they historically treated other Indians of other tribes. The crime of
murder in a land that was considered lawless at the time and a people that
had no written laws may sound odd but the white man had written laws in
which they could accurately judge such acts. The term "savages" would detail
the consistent and repeated brutality and overkill of their vicious acts of murder etc..

If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.

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Old 06-23-12, 02:22 PM   #63
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The thread title itself is considered trolling by some.


I'm not laughing. I am, however, always honest. My belief and its ramifications are subject for a different thread. Yours are the very core of your thread. Anyone can claim to be anything. While you claim to be Christian you have never once preached Christ in anything you've said. You preach hate, pure and simple. I can't judge your innermost thoughts, but what you say here is the exact opposite of what the Bible says a Christian in supposed to be. Talk is cheap. "By their fruits shall you know them."
I do have actions to back my faith. However, I have personal experience dealing with apostates
who think they understand the bible. Neither should be on this thread because it diverts the discussion.
May I suggest a new thread for you to start call possibly: "Talk is Cheap" and so was my faith in Christ.


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Old 06-23-12, 02:28 PM   #64
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Well, this would most likely have been the opinion of those who had to bury
their white victims. And my also have been those who made a general study
of how they historically treated other Indians of other tribes. The crime of
murder in a land that was considered lawless at the time and a people that
had no written laws may sound odd but the white man had written laws in
which they could accurately judge such acts. The term "savages" would detail
the consistent and repeated brutality and overkill of their vicious acts of murder etc..

If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.

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An interesting conclusion, however one could apply both terms to those of many different nations who marched under many different banners, including those who marched on Jerusalem in the name of God as sanctioned by multiple representatives of Gods will on Earth, aka the Pope.
In terms of how they treated their fellow Indians, might I refer you to the American Civil War, and indeed World War One and Two for how civilized people treat their neighbours.

I shall refrain from starting a new thread because I don't want this thread to sprawl across the forums, there's enough thread in here for all of us, and it was a statement made by yourself after all.
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Old 06-23-12, 02:28 PM   #65
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Well, this would most likely have been the opinion of those who had to bury
their white victims. And my also have been those who made a general study
of how they historically treated other Indians of other tribes. The crime of
murder in a land that was considered lawless at the time and a people that
had no written laws may sound odd but the white man had written laws in
which they could accurately judge such acts. The term "savages" would detail
the consistent and repeated brutality and overkill of their vicious acts of murder etc..

If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.

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Wow excellent.....


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Old 06-23-12, 02:30 PM   #66
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I do have actions to back my faith.
Such as? Christ said to go forth and preach the Gospel. Have you done that here? Ever? As I said, the only thing you preach here is hate.

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However, I have personal experience dealing with apostates who think they understand the bible. Neither should be on this thread because it diverts the discussion.
May I suggest a new thread for you to start call possibly: "Talk is Cheap" and so was my faith in Christ.
No, you're using your claimed faith to condemn groups of people you don't like. You brought it into this thread and you have to live with it. The discussion you created was solely to use the actions of one man to justify the condemnation of all homosexuals. You claim that God wants this. That is in direct opposition to what the Bible says Christ wants. Now you're trying to escape it by claiming it's not part of the discussion.

So, if your discussion isn't about blaming all homosexuals for one man's sick activities, as your title suggests, then what is it about?
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Old 06-23-12, 02:35 PM   #67
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I do have actions to back my faith. However, I have personal experience dealing with apostates
who think they understand the bible. Neither should be on this thread because it diverts the discussion.
May I suggest a new thread for you to start call possibly: "Talk is Cheap" and so was my faith in Christ.


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What discussion?

You come here with your opinion - thats fine you have right to it. The "small problem" here is that you expect everyone else to provide evidence (and if they do you just mock instead of countering with your own) their point of view while you refuse to do so yourself.

I say this bluntly: Either show evidence to back your claims or shut up.
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If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.
Why should he start a new thread, you the resident nazi introduced the subject to this thread, several people have said you are talking crap in this thread on that subject and demonstrated it, you attempted a sad and lame rebuttal together with another dumb conspiracy and all that did was quickly show how ignorant you are of your own country.
I can see why you don't want it in this topic any more, but quite frankly the total failure of any "idea" you had in that direction are no more humiliating for you than any of the other rubbish you are writing.

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Sammi there is no attempt, it would be futile to even try.
There are two schools of thought to consider in dealing with brain dead neo-nazis.
The best of the two in my opinion is to shine the light on them to let them display themselves in all their glory and simply laugh at how pathetic their views are.
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In this thread: troll feeding at it's finest.
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I shall refrain from starting a new thread because I don't want this thread to sprawl across the forums, there's enough thread in here for all of us, and it was a statement made by yourself after all.
And the powers that be thank you for it. Good man.

Watching this thread with great interest.

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Old 06-23-12, 03:14 PM   #71
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An interesting conclusion, however one could apply both terms to those of many different nations who marched under many different banners, including those who marched on Jerusalem in the name of God as sanctioned by multiple representatives of Gods will on Earth, aka the Pope.
In terms of how they treated their fellow Indians, might I refer you to the American Civil War, and indeed World War One and Two for how civilized people treat their neighbours.

I shall refrain from starting a new thread because I don't want this thread to sprawl across the forums, there's enough thread in here for all of us, and it was a statement made by yourself after all.

Ok fine. The problem is in the heart of mankind and is a spiritual one. If you
can step back and view the overall history of man. You will see one very
clear and unusual event in time (33 years). Namely the life, death and resurrection of Christ.
Christ Jesus stated a movement that began small and grew steadily through
fierce persecution into a movement that changed
the entire history of the world. Men like you Oberon refuse to imagine how
the world would be if those early believers in Christ were wiped out. The
massive contribution Christianity to all of humanity can and will stand on their own merits forever.
No other religious order can even show it's face in comparison.
I know all to well how some like to find fault in those who profess Christ as if they have a better way
or they claim to know Christ and what he really thinks while rejecting the bible.


There is no peace without Christ Jesus the Lord - He (Christ Jesus) will make certain of that!

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Old 06-23-12, 03:46 PM   #72
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I give up, I'm obviosly going to get no reply to my earlier question and leave it to my fellow moderator Takeda Shingen to monitor the 'merits' of this thread.
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Who exactly are you referring to?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_Frank

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Old 06-23-12, 04:01 PM   #74
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Well I'm obviously missing something here....he is gay and Jewish, so is there an issue here?
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There is no peace without Christ Jesus the Lord - He (Christ Jesus) will make certain of that!

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Very nice of him..... my dear holly warrior.
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