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Old 06-23-12, 01:00 PM   #1
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So the 'Indians' were 'murdering savages'...

Quite why were they so?
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Old 06-23-12, 01:11 PM   #2
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Now you're back where you should have been in the first place. You want to condemn this man for the evil he did? I'm right there with you. But you want to blame a group for the sins of one, and condemn them out of hand. That has nothing to do with the case in question, and is an attempt to tar the entire subject of your hatred with a very broad brush.


Your example has nothing to do with the subject of your thread. Or are you saying a president was murdered by gays? Or that the president was murdered because he supported gays? Because he hated gays? Your example has nothing to do with Sandusky or with homosexuality in general. The two seem connected only in your mind.
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So the 'Indians' were 'murdering savages'...

Quite why were they so?
Does that make you wonder why there no museum for them in Washington DC?

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Old 06-23-12, 01:18 PM   #3
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Its pity that Adolf is dead. I'm quite sure there would be more intelligent and worthy debate (debate not "debate" like this one) with him than with you Zee.

Sorry if I punched your (or Adolf's) feelings too hardly.
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Old 06-23-12, 01:23 PM   #4
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Its pity that Adolf is dead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He%27s_Alive

I suppose some good might come out of debate here. Someone sitting on the sidelines might be reading it, and have an open enough mind to take something from the discussion.
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Old 06-23-12, 01:28 PM   #5
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Its pity that Adolf is dead. I'm quite sure there would be more intelligent and worthy debate (debate not "debate" like this one) with him than with you Zee.

Sorry if I punched your (or Adolf's) feelings too hardly.

Don't worry, if that is what you call a punch it's obvious why you would be
concerned about this thread.

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Old 06-23-12, 01:25 PM   #6
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Does that make you wonder why there no museum for them in Washington DC?

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Erm...there is?

http://nmai.si.edu/visit/washington/

But your inaccurate statement still does not answer my question.
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Erm...there is?

http://nmai.si.edu/visit/washington/

But your inaccurate statement still does not answer my question.
Wow Oberon, those political whores in Washington DC never cease at proving
how wonderful they are. And what was your question?

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Old 06-23-12, 01:38 PM   #8
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Wow Oberon, those political whores in Washington DC never cease at proving
how wonderful they are. And what was your question?

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My question was why are the 'Indians' 'murdering savages'?
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Old 06-23-12, 02:11 PM   #9
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My question was why are the 'Indians' 'murdering savages'?
Well, this would most likely have been the opinion of those who had to bury
their white victims. And my also have been those who made a general study
of how they historically treated other Indians of other tribes. The crime of
murder in a land that was considered lawless at the time and a people that
had no written laws may sound odd but the white man had written laws in
which they could accurately judge such acts. The term "savages" would detail
the consistent and repeated brutality and overkill of their vicious acts of murder etc..

If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.

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Old 06-23-12, 02:28 PM   #10
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Well, this would most likely have been the opinion of those who had to bury
their white victims. And my also have been those who made a general study
of how they historically treated other Indians of other tribes. The crime of
murder in a land that was considered lawless at the time and a people that
had no written laws may sound odd but the white man had written laws in
which they could accurately judge such acts. The term "savages" would detail
the consistent and repeated brutality and overkill of their vicious acts of murder etc..

If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.

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An interesting conclusion, however one could apply both terms to those of many different nations who marched under many different banners, including those who marched on Jerusalem in the name of God as sanctioned by multiple representatives of Gods will on Earth, aka the Pope.
In terms of how they treated their fellow Indians, might I refer you to the American Civil War, and indeed World War One and Two for how civilized people treat their neighbours.

I shall refrain from starting a new thread because I don't want this thread to sprawl across the forums, there's enough thread in here for all of us, and it was a statement made by yourself after all.
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Old 06-23-12, 02:28 PM   #11
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Well, this would most likely have been the opinion of those who had to bury
their white victims. And my also have been those who made a general study
of how they historically treated other Indians of other tribes. The crime of
murder in a land that was considered lawless at the time and a people that
had no written laws may sound odd but the white man had written laws in
which they could accurately judge such acts. The term "savages" would detail
the consistent and repeated brutality and overkill of their vicious acts of murder etc..

If you need more on this subject would you please start a new thread.

ZeeWolf

Wow excellent.....


now go play...


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Wow Oberon, those political whores in Washington DC never cease at proving
how wonderful they are. And what was your question?

ZeeWolf

Yes, opening a museum for the indiginous culture is disgusting isn't it? /sarcasm
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