need help regarding FLAK usage.

boonie · 06-08-12, 07:31 AM

i wanted to practice more on using the heavy flak gun (3.7cm) but can't seem to find a good single mission to practice that.

i used gwx gold and that flak training has become pretty impossible to practice manual flak handling.

is there a way to make the sub indestructible just for this training mission so that i can practice my flak gunnery without the hassle of reloading in less than 30 sec after the mission start?

just wanted more time to practice gunning.

Gargamel · 06-08-12, 02:20 PM

Use the mission editor to create your own. Have increasingly stronger aircraft arrive every 60 secs or so.

Sailor Steve · 06-08-12, 02:59 PM

On one hand it's best to do the training before installing GWX.

On the other you get the full 1500 renown bonus just for completing the Navigation Training. Everything else is disposable.

Gargamel · 06-08-12, 07:50 PM

And TBH, your best defense against air is the crash dive. And if it's too shallow to submerge, then your probably better off at the helm than the guns. Let the crew shoot while you keep the flank speed boat off the sand bars.

boonie · 06-15-12, 12:16 AM

i'm just trying to squeeze more fun out of this jewel of a sim.

Its definitely a lot more fun manning the gun myself rather than pointing with the binoculars..

I have tried using the mission editors to hack out a single mission, how to determine how often a new plane arrive?

Sailor Steve · 06-15-12, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by boonie

i'm just trying to squeeze more fun out of this jewel of a sim.

Its definitely a lot more fun manning the gun myself rather than pointing with the binoculars..

I can understand that. On the other hand if you're manning the gun yourself it's no longer a sim.

boonie · 06-15-12, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I can understand that. On the other hand if you're manning the gun yourself it's no longer a sim.

erm i think thats open to personal opinion. not sure if trolling.

SubConscious · 06-15-12, 12:28 PM

I have a very hard time hitting anything with the AAA. My preference for the 37mm is to save it for small targets of opportunity and blasting searchlights. Battling against aircraft, even if I had multiple flak guns, is a losing proposition in my opinion, given the fragility of the U-boat hull.

Still, there's nothing wrong with target practice. The suggestion of creating a mod is probably the best bet. Good luck and good hunting!

Sailor Steve · 06-15-12, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by boonie

erm i think thats open to personal opinion. not sure if trolling.

Of course it's opinion. Trolling? Not at all. A 'sim' means a simulator. The captain of a u-boat never fired the deck gun or the flak guns. Hence, if the game allows it, it's not a sim. If you do it, you're no longer simulatiing, you're gaming. That is indeed just an opinion.

A 'sim' simulates the reality, not what's fun.

Jimbuna · 06-15-12, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by boonie

erm i think thats open to personal opinion. not sure if trolling.

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

boonie · 06-15-12, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

BE MORE AGGRESSIVE!!

lol already man handling the gun and watching 500 pound bomb landing smack on my face... not sure if its possible to be moar aggressive..

sharkbit · 06-15-12, 01:13 PM

Start a career in 1944 and sail around the Bay of Biscay for a few days. You might have an opportunity or two to try out your Flak guns.

Jimbuna · 06-15-12, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boonie

lol already man handling the gun and watching 500 pound bomb landing smack on my face... not sure if its possible to be moar aggressive..

boonie · 06-15-12, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Of course it's opinion. Trolling? Not at all. A 'sim' means a simulator. The captain of a u-boat never fired the deck gun or the flak guns. Hence, if the game allows it, it's not a sim. If you do it, you're no longer simulatiing, you're gaming. That is indeed just an opinion.

A 'sim' simulates the reality, not what's fun.

lol that's a very legit reason for being lazy hehehe, just kidding.

I get alot of fun shooting planes from the sub, its dangerous but after all its just a game. and to me the AA guns are like a mini-game within the sim.

Sailor Steve · 06-15-12, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by boonie

lol that's a very legit reason for being lazy hehehe, just kidding.

I get alot of fun shooting planes from the sub, its dangerous but after all its just a game. and to me the AA guns are like a mini-game within the sim.

Of course. My problem is I've been playing subsims since Silent Service in 1985. The only thing that even holds my interest anymore is the historical aspect. For me the fun lies in trying to recreate the actual feel of being there.

06-08-12, 07:31 AM	#1
boonie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 134 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	need help regarding FLAK usage. i wanted to practice more on using the heavy flak gun (3.7cm) but can't seem to find a good single mission to practice that. i used gwx gold and that flak training has become pretty impossible to practice manual flak handling. is there a way to make the sub indestructible just for this training mission so that i can practice my flak gunnery without the hassle of reloading in less than 30 sec after the mission start? just wanted more time to practice gunning.

06-08-12, 02:20 PM	#2
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Use the mission editor to create your own. Have increasingly stronger aircraft arrive every 60 secs or so. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

06-08-12, 02:59 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	On one hand it's best to do the training before installing GWX. On the other you get the full 1500 renown bonus just for completing the Navigation Training. Everything else is disposable. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-08-12, 07:50 PM	#4
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	And TBH, your best defense against air is the crash dive. And if it's too shallow to submerge, then your probably better off at the helm than the guns. Let the crew shoot while you keep the flank speed boat off the sand bars. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

06-15-12, 12:28 PM	#8
SubConscious Frogman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 309 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	I have a very hard time hitting anything with the AAA. My preference for the 37mm is to save it for small targets of opportunity and blasting searchlights. Battling against aircraft, even if I had multiple flak guns, is a losing proposition in my opinion, given the fragility of the U-boat hull. Still, there's nothing wrong with target practice. The suggestion of creating a mod is probably the best bet. Good luck and good hunting! __________________ "Come into port greatly, or sail with God the seas..." - Emerson

06-15-12, 12:16 AM	#5
boonie Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 134 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	i'm just trying to squeeze more fun out of this jewel of a sim. Its definitely a lot more fun manning the gun myself rather than pointing with the binoculars.. I have tried using the mission editors to hack out a single mission, how to determine how often a new plane arrive?

06-15-12, 01:13 PM	#12
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Start a career in 1944 and sail around the Bay of Biscay for a few days. You might have an opportunity or two to try out your Flak guns. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”