So if Obama loses - its all because or racism....

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That said, I see a big difference between disliking someone and actively hating him. I thought Bush taking us into Iraq was a mistake, but I never hated him for it. The ones who hated him did so before he was elected, and were looking for an excuse to legitimize their hate.

It's the same here. The people who hated Obama from the start were also looking for some reason that would justify their hate. It's not the fact that they question his birth; it's the vehemence with which they go about it, and every other move he's made. You can tell by the way they jump on every single mistake or decision. That's not legitimate questioning. That's hate.

Well said, I agree 100% Too many people are so polarized they cannot find anything to agree with on the other side. It's just as bad with the Obama-hating right wingers as the Bush-hating left wingers. Both are pretty sad people.

I give Obama full kudos for getting Osama ( being the leader who made the call, you know what I mean). I also applaud him for not shutting down the war in Iraq and Afghanistan prematurely like he campaigned and pledged he would (where are all the anti-war lefties now? I never see them protesting against their Messiah!). For those two reasons, I will consider him in the election. For crippling NASA, it's still not a certainty he gets my vote.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Only if you agree with the abandonment for example of old traditional marraige laws in certain quarters which specified which percentage of "black" blood made a white person definately black and not at all white

I certainly do agree with the abandonment of that way of categorizing people. It's very racist, deciding that if someone has a portion of black in in their make-up, then they are black. The reason that concept existed was because white people rejected anyone who was not 100% white--whoo, hard to believe so many still cling to that concept, even black and mostly black people