Mayor Bloomberg is an idiot and dangerous

Platapus · 05-31-12, 06:20 PM

But tobacco and alcohol products can still be sold.

If the goal is to control that which causes higher health risks/health costs, I would imagine there are other areas of higher priority.

While the intention is laudable, the government should not be taking this action.

Note the day: 31May12. Bubblehead and I are in agreement.

vienna · 05-31-12, 06:23 PM

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Note the day: 31May12. Bubblehead and I are in agreement.

This just in:

Pigs suddenly sprout wings;

Blizzards in Hades;

Cubs win World Series;

Proctologits report finding monkeys;

More as it develops...

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Platapus · 05-31-12, 07:20 PM

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Cubs win World Series;

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Now you are just being unrealistic.

Armistead · 05-31-12, 07:30 PM

None of these regulations work, cept get all the junk food out of schools since they're tax dollars. Heck, kids today hardly have gym, our gym teachers exercised the mess out of us.

They say disease related to obesiety in the next 20 years will triple the cost of medicare/caid....and it's already trillions in debt.

Why they need to keep pot illegal, makes you eat and legalize crack that makes you skinny...

gimpy117 · 06-02-12, 10:22 AM

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Cubs win World Series;

Okay the other ones i could believe but....

oh also...i say good on the large soda ban. It's probably one of the biggest reasons we're fat. Why? not because people choose to drink a giant sized soda with all it's calories; it's because they don't know it has 800 calories worth of corn syrup in it.

Skybird · 05-31-12, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

But tobacco and alcohol products can still be sold.

If the goal is to control that which causes higher health risks/health costs, I would imagine there are other areas of higher priority.

Sugar is the most underestimated risk factor. I rate it as more damaging to health costs than tobacco or alcohol or drugs.

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Has he defined what drinks fall under this "Large sized" sodas ban?

Drink sizes greater than 478 ml (16 onc) that use no sweeter but sugar: coffee, soft drinks, tea, "fruit" juice - if they use sugar.

Pardon. I must always laugh when I am in a supermarket and see those "fruit" juices. Most are more liquidised candy than "fruit".

u crank · 05-31-12, 06:36 PM

Problem: Large sized sodas banned.

Solution: Buy more than one.

Stealhead · 05-31-12, 07:09 PM

Depending on unit price you might wind up getting more sugar for less money by buying two smaller sodas vs. one large one.

Skybird is right about most "juices" sold in stores they are really flavored sugar more or less.

Those measures wont solve much people will either buy the more than one item to get more than 16 oz or they will use a lot of those sugar packets.

Skybird · 06-01-12, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Depending on unit price you might wind up getting more sugar for less money by buying two smaller sodas vs. one large one.

Skybird is right about most "juices" sold in stores they are really flavored sugar more or less.

Those measures wont solve much people will either buy the more than one item to get more than 16 oz or they will use a lot of those sugar packets.

Why? In supermarkets all these 1 gallon canisters still can be bought. The ban is on hand-held opoen drinks bought in for examples bistros, cinemas, theatres, and such. Supermarkets remain unaffected, and that means private households will not chnage.

I would have chosen another way. Stamp a 500% tax on top of the bottle if it contains more than a minimum of refined sugar. Helps public finances for some time. Makes people hesitent.

And as somebody mentioned, subsidies. Stop subsidizing crop for sirup production.

Ach was, stop subsidies alltogether.

MH · 06-01-12, 07:13 AM

Yeah...keep people on diet through taxes.

I would adjust the prices according to daily consumption of calories needed for human body and nutrition values.

Every body would be thin and happy like in NK..... want to get fat then sell your house.
Problem solved.

06-01-12, 10:50 AM

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I am often amazed...blah blah blah....than the one we have now.

When you grow up walk into a pub or a restaurant, ask for a pint of vodka.
bloody government telling people what size drinks they can serve in their business premesis

I do like your "revenue loss" angle though, numbers not your strong ponit either then

Bubblehead1980 · 05-31-12, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

But tobacco and alcohol products can still be sold.

If the goal is to control that which causes higher health risks/health costs, I would imagine there are other areas of higher priority.

While the intention is laudable, the government should not be taking this action.

Note the day: 31May12. Bubblehead and I are in agreement.

Glad have seen the light.

06-01-12, 02:05 AM

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But tobacco and alcohol products can still be sold.

Terms and conditions apply.
In fact on one part its pretty similar terms and conditions covering size content and location.

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Problem: Large sized sodas banned.

Solution: Buy more than one.

See its a win win situation, if people still want to guzzle 64oz of HFCS sweetened crap they have to walk back to the counter for a refill or three.
The mayor is simply encouraging exercise for the extrasized.

Gorduz · 06-01-12, 03:35 AM

The main problem here is simply government subsidies of corn farming which is used to produce high fructose corn syrup, making sweets cheaper that they ought to be, and preventing farmers from switching to more healthier crops...

I have nothing against this ban, but I don't think it will help. I do bellieve in a high suger tax to let the sugar happy people pay for their own hospitalization.

Bubblehead1980 · 06-01-12, 04:04 AM

I am often amazed at how much power people are willing to give to the government, just makes me shake my head in shame that this way of thinking has managed to become fairly common in this country.Some blowhard like Bloomberg does not know what is best for every individual , but of course people like him do not care about individuality, it's all about the "collective", people like Bloomberg are dangerous.Cola in moderation does no harm, BUT that is an individual choice, to have a small or large, no government entity should be able to limit that and force a business to no offer the size customers want.Like I said, if the business chose to make 16 oz their largest serving, fine, they can suffer the revenue loss, but the government has no role here, once again a huge overreach from government.I have enjoyed my visits to NYC but their nanny state there is astounding, all the cameras etc in the name of "security" and of course the sheeple mostly play along.Really hope Bloomberg never runs for the Presidency, with all his money he would prob have a shot, what a dangerous A hole of a President he would be, most likely more dangerous than the one we have now.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	But tobacco and alcohol products can still be sold. If the goal is to control that which causes higher health risks/health costs, I would imagine there are other areas of higher priority. While the intention is laudable, the government should not be taking this action. Note the day: 31May12. Bubblehead and I are in agreement. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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u crank Old enough to know better Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Prince Edward Island Posts: 11,745 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 0	Problem: Large sized sodas banned. Solution: Buy more than one. __________________ “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.” ― Arthur C. Clarke

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Gorduz Engineer Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 210 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The main problem here is simply government subsidies of corn farming which is used to produce high fructose corn syrup, making sweets cheaper that they ought to be, and preventing farmers from switching to more healthier crops... I have nothing against this ban, but I don't think it will help. I do bellieve in a high suger tax to let the sugar happy people pay for their own hospitalization. __________________ 21. MTB skv. Attacks without warning.

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Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	None of these regulations work, cept get all the junk food out of schools since they're tax dollars. Heck, kids today hardly have gym, our gym teachers exercised the mess out of us. They say disease related to obesiety in the next 20 years will triple the cost of medicare/caid....and it's already trillions in debt. Why they need to keep pot illegal, makes you eat and legalize crack that makes you skinny...

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Depending on unit price you might wind up getting more sugar for less money by buying two smaller sodas vs. one large one. Skybird is right about most "juices" sold in stores they are really flavored sugar more or less. Those measures wont solve much people will either buy the more than one item to get more than 16 oz or they will use a lot of those sugar packets.

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MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	Yeah...keep people on diet through taxes. I would adjust the prices according to daily consumption of calories needed for human body and nutrition values. Every body would be thin and happy like in NK..... want to get fat then sell your house. Problem solved.

06-01-12, 04:04 AM	#15
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,105 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	I am often amazed at how much power people are willing to give to the government, just makes me shake my head in shame that this way of thinking has managed to become fairly common in this country.Some blowhard like Bloomberg does not know what is best for every individual , but of course people like him do not care about individuality, it's all about the "collective", people like Bloomberg are dangerous.Cola in moderation does no harm, BUT that is an individual choice, to have a small or large, no government entity should be able to limit that and force a business to no offer the size customers want.Like I said, if the business chose to make 16 oz their largest serving, fine, they can suffer the revenue loss, but the government has no role here, once again a huge overreach from government.I have enjoyed my visits to NYC but their nanny state there is astounding, all the cameras etc in the name of "security" and of course the sheeple mostly play along.Really hope Bloomberg never runs for the Presidency, with all his money he would prob have a shot, what a dangerous A hole of a President he would be, most likely more dangerous than the one we have now.