No swearing in War Movies? - Page 2

krashkart · 05-27-12, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

I just heard as I'm typing this "Its a [frriggin] slaughter" bracketed word being a dub, and 2 seconds later arty lands on the man who watched his language and his severed head lands on the guy he was talking to, no cut made to spare us that nasty detail.

Okay, this made me chuckle. Not like a whole lot of chuckling.. just, you know. A sort of "guffaw" and that was it.

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Well, alright it made me giggle like a demented little school girl would after setting her classmates on fire. Happy now? Sheesh.

The main reason I don't watch war movies on TV is that all the good stuff gets bleeped out. That and commercials. Nothing spoils a bayonet charge worse than a Cap'n Crunch commercial followed up by Charmin and that dang Geico lizard. Wwwwhhhyyyy????

*shakes fist at the heavens*

soopaman2 · 05-27-12, 01:49 PM

I see very little difference between a swear word during a tense battle scene, than I do seeing limbs fly off of men in realistic ways. Or artillery massacring a formation of troops. Or a fictional nuke eradicating a city.

For some reason one is bad, while the other is not. Yet both are real.

I find it silly. I remember watching NYPB Blue, and seeing Dennis Franzs' fat ugly naked ass (On ABC). I wonder if Dennis was a Denise? Bet you bottom dollar it would have been off limits.

I only watch movies now, DVDS or VHS.

I watched Flight of the intruder last nite on the Military Channel, and was disgusted by how it was butchered. On a channel where people expect a little gore/ language.

But the "naughty Librarian" commercial for glasses, they spam is fine?

At least the movie was not trying to sell me sex, in an attempt to make glasses look cool.

My point is, why cut out the word uhhh... (I can't say it here either) [Feces] in a movie (where he had a SAM missile on his backside, and appropraite to say so in such a case)

They had no problem with Willem DaFoe jamming a knife into a mans neck though.

I feel this thread is more than just about the movies, but how pussified we have become. It just seems like people go out of their way to be offended about stuff in our country.

We really are a bunch of wet ends for allowing it.

CaptainMattJ. · 05-27-12, 03:29 PM

I do believe that children need to learn when and where such language is appropriate, for example, and how to use it sparingly to get a point across where it is appropriate so as not to sound unintelligent (so as not to say the F word every other word and sound like a fool). I dont want my future children mouthing off at me, it shows a sign of disrespect for the authority i have and is terrible for his/her process of learning how to be an adult. I dont have a problem with the swearing as long as they learn where, when, and how to use it.

That being said, as an adult, i dont think i have a conversation with my friends, my parents today (not when i was young, thank you), or my wife without swearing. As stated in the video above, its not a sign of unintelligent banter, its a strong adjective meant to evoke a stronger feeling out of what youre trying to say. I wouldnt swear around my boss or many of my professors, though, because we try to keep a sense of formality.

In short, i think there are certain areas where you need to tread lightly. i also think if people dont want to hear that language, they need to find a different movie, because frankly if theyre going to show a movie, i find it ridiculous that they would censor it because some viewers might get "offended" by it. i especially despise parents who complain about it being shown on TV where their children can see. Chances are theyve heard the word used already, and if you ont want them hearing it, do something about it. Dont let them watch the movie if you care so much. the FCC regulation is so absurd. Now full on nudity, thats a bit deeper subject that i wont get into.

Stealhead · 05-27-12, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

I do believe that children need to learn when and where such language is appropriate, for example, and how to use it sparingly to get a point across where it is appropriate so as not to sound unintelligent (so as not to say the F word every other word and sound like a fool). I dont want my future children mouthing off at me, it shows a sign of disrespect for the authority i have and is terrible for his/her process of learning how to be an adult. I dont have a problem with the swearing as long as they learn where, when, and how to use it.

That being said, as an adult, i dont think i have a conversation with my friends, my parents today (not when i was young, thank you), or my wife without swearing. As stated in the video above, its not a sign of unintelligent banter, its a strong adjective meant to evoke a stronger feeling out of what youre trying to say. I would swear around my boss or many of my professors, though, because we try to keep a sense of formality.

In short, i think there are certain areas where you need to tread lightly. i also think if people dont want to hear that language, they need to find a different movie, because frankly if theyre going to show a movie, i find it ridiculous that they would censor it because some viewers might get "offended" by it. i especially despise parents who complain about it being shown on TV where their children can see. Chances are theyve heard the word used already, and if you ont want them hearing it, do something about it. Dont let them watch the movie if you care so much. the FCC regulation is so absurd. Now full on nudity, thats a bit deeper subject that i wont get into.

Kids learn form what they see mom and dad do so if Dad says "Freaking Fiddle Sticks!"(clean subsim version) after he smashes his finger with a hammer then the kid will think "I use that word when something very unpleasant happens.

If Dad says "Freaking" every other word the kid likely will as well. Many people grossly over use swear words.

To a massive extent the FCCs rules are bogus any way every TV(I think) has that V-chip deal in and cable/satellite boxes have controls as well so any truly responsible parent has total control without government interference.I have a friend who uses swear words fairly regularly yet he bans his kids from using them yet he speaks this way in front of them.

He also got into a confrontation once with a group of teenagers after he got on to them because they where cussing in public as he walked by with one of his sons and they told him to go to....

Like I said before our society is a walking contradiction if ever there was one.Take sex for example in most states it is illegal to partake in prostitution yet many products use the implication of sex in their advertising.You cant sell sex but you can use sex to sell.

"Get clear and sexy skin with Slut Face"

Wal Mart dose not sell albums that have an explicit lyrics label yet they sell violent video games and movies they also refuse to sell pron mags or even Maximum or Esquire.I have seen in various stores they put covers on some women magazines.

05-27-12, 01:49 PM	#17
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	I see very little difference between a swear word during a tense battle scene, than I do seeing limbs fly off of men in realistic ways. Or artillery massacring a formation of troops. Or a fictional nuke eradicating a city. For some reason one is bad, while the other is not. Yet both are real. I find it silly. I remember watching NYPB Blue, and seeing Dennis Franzs' fat ugly naked ass (On ABC). I wonder if Dennis was a Denise? Bet you bottom dollar it would have been off limits. I only watch movies now, DVDS or VHS. I watched Flight of the intruder last nite on the Military Channel, and was disgusted by how it was butchered. On a channel where people expect a little gore/ language. But the "naughty Librarian" commercial for glasses, they spam is fine? At least the movie was not trying to sell me sex, in an attempt to make glasses look cool. My point is, why cut out the word uhhh... (I can't say it here either) [Feces] in a movie (where he had a SAM missile on his backside, and appropraite to say so in such a case) They had no problem with Willem DaFoe jamming a knife into a mans neck though. I feel this thread is more than just about the movies, but how pussified we have become. It just seems like people go out of their way to be offended about stuff in our country. We really are a bunch of wet ends for allowing it. __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

05-27-12, 03:29 PM	#18
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	I do believe that children need to learn when and where such language is appropriate, for example, and how to use it sparingly to get a point across where it is appropriate so as not to sound unintelligent (so as not to say the F word every other word and sound like a fool). I dont want my future children mouthing off at me, it shows a sign of disrespect for the authority i have and is terrible for his/her process of learning how to be an adult. I dont have a problem with the swearing as long as they learn where, when, and how to use it. That being said, as an adult, i dont think i have a conversation with my friends, my parents today (not when i was young, thank you), or my wife without swearing. As stated in the video above, its not a sign of unintelligent banter, its a strong adjective meant to evoke a stronger feeling out of what youre trying to say. I wouldnt swear around my boss or many of my professors, though, because we try to keep a sense of formality. In short, i think there are certain areas where you need to tread lightly. i also think if people dont want to hear that language, they need to find a different movie, because frankly if theyre going to show a movie, i find it ridiculous that they would censor it because some viewers might get "offended" by it. i especially despise parents who complain about it being shown on TV where their children can see. Chances are theyve heard the word used already, and if you ont want them hearing it, do something about it. Dont let them watch the movie if you care so much. the FCC regulation is so absurd. Now full on nudity, thats a bit deeper subject that i wont get into. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison Last edited by CaptainMattJ.; 05-28-12 at 07:06 PM.