Safety on the surface

MKalafatas · 05-26-12, 06:29 PM

I think I was at x256. I'll scale back. These "ambushes" occurred north of Luzon and north of Lingayen Gulf in Dec '41. Should have expected some trouble but I was impatient ....

Hinrich Schwab · 05-26-12, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MKalafatas

I think I was at x256. I'll scale back. These "ambushes" occurred north of Luzon and north of Lingayen Gulf in Dec '41. Should have expected some trouble but I was impatient ....

x256 wouldn't have been that bad were it not for the fact that you were in IJN's front yard.

If you are that far in enemy waters, I wouldn't want to go over x64.

Hylander_1314 · 05-26-12, 07:18 PM

Whenever using time compression, you should have the stopwatch on the screen. When ships or planes spawn, the stopwatch will either pause, or start to lag as it ticks. Be ready to hit the backspace key to drop to normal time.

Go to either your hydrophones or radar, they will tell you what's going on. I use 1024 TC all the time, in friendly as well as Empire waters, but the old trick of using the stopwatch, is a sure bet for knowing something is happening.

Armistead · 05-26-12, 11:00 PM

With newer versions of TMO the enemy has much better visuals and gun range, I've been shot at over 5nms.

Sounds like your bigger issue is lack of surface radar, once I get that I time compress away. Without it the japs visuals are much better than yours. Probably would help to increase friendly visuals, cuz the jap AI's visuals are much better than the subs AI.

The lag trick works really well, moreso the larger the group. Fairly easy to see the slowdown, when the PC lags, go to sonar and get a bearing. It's better to back out by going to a stations than beating on the minus key. You can hit one button and be at normal speed, I see lag, I hit F2 and in the control room at normal speed.

MKalafatas · 05-26-12, 11:03 PM

Ah, thanks Armistead --- I think you hit the nail on the head re: AI in newer TMO.

Hylander, I'll convert to the stopwatch. Thanks!

Nicolas · 05-27-12, 10:11 AM

That's weird if it's warships, i say its those land batteries, stay away from shore at around 15 nm. If you get hit near land and you see nothing, then are the land defenses.

MKalafatas · 05-27-12, 01:33 PM

Yes, I learned my lesson about shore batteries in the Sunda Strait (between Java and Sumatra) in an earlier career.

These were warships. I got a good look at them during the 9 months it takes for the S-boat to crash dive.

Armistead · 05-27-12, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MKalafatas

Ah, thanks Armistead --- I think you hit the nail on the head re: AI in newer TMO.

Hylander, I'll convert to the stopwatch. Thanks!

Well, I can't say for sure, haven't looked in the files, I would think with his highly increased gun ranges for the enemy he would also have to increase enemy AI visuals, if they can't see you, what good is gun range. I don't know that just changing the gun range values alone gives the range. Obvious many other factors come into play, fog, etc..

I'll look at it, maybe in fairness to increase your subs AI visuals and gun ranges.

05-26-12, 06:29 PM	#1
MKalafatas Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Springboro OH Posts: 135 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	I think I was at x256. I'll scale back. These "ambushes" occurred north of Luzon and north of Lingayen Gulf in Dec '41. Should have expected some trouble but I was impatient .... __________________ "Not all those who wander are lost." - JRR Tolkien

05-26-12, 07:18 PM	#3
Hylander_1314 Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: 5 Miles Inland West Of Lake Huron Posts: 1,936 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	Whenever using time compression, you should have the stopwatch on the screen. When ships or planes spawn, the stopwatch will either pause, or start to lag as it ticks. Be ready to hit the backspace key to drop to normal time. Go to either your hydrophones or radar, they will tell you what's going on. I use 1024 TC all the time, in friendly as well as Empire waters, but the old trick of using the stopwatch, is a sure bet for knowing something is happening. __________________ A legislative act contrary to the Constitution is not law. -John Marshall Chief Justice of the Supreme Court ---------------------

05-26-12, 11:03 PM	#5
MKalafatas Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Springboro OH Posts: 135 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Ah, thanks Armistead --- I think you hit the nail on the head re: AI in newer TMO. Hylander, I'll convert to the stopwatch. Thanks! __________________ "Not all those who wander are lost." - JRR Tolkien Last edited by MKalafatas; 05-27-12 at 02:54 AM.

05-27-12, 01:33 PM	#7
MKalafatas Electrician's Mate Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Springboro OH Posts: 135 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	Yes, I learned my lesson about shore batteries in the Sunda Strait (between Java and Sumatra) in an earlier career. These were warships. I got a good look at them during the 9 months it takes for the S-boat to crash dive. __________________ "Not all those who wander are lost." - JRR Tolkien

05-26-12, 11:00 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	With newer versions of TMO the enemy has much better visuals and gun range, I've been shot at over 5nms. Sounds like your bigger issue is lack of surface radar, once I get that I time compress away. Without it the japs visuals are much better than yours. Probably would help to increase friendly visuals, cuz the jap AI's visuals are much better than the subs AI. The lag trick works really well, moreso the larger the group. Fairly easy to see the slowdown, when the PC lags, go to sonar and get a bearing. It's better to back out by going to a stations than beating on the minus key. You can hit one button and be at normal speed, I see lag, I hit F2 and in the control room at normal speed.

05-27-12, 10:11 AM	#6
Nicolas Commander Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Uruguay Posts: 453 Downloads: 196 Uploads: 4	That's weird if it's warships, i say its those land batteries, stay away from shore at around 15 nm. If you get hit near land and you see nothing, then are the land defenses.