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Old 05-25-12, 09:05 AM   #1
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Don't they realise interest rates in the UK are currently at an all time low...far better cut the rate of VAT.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18158226
Jim the last Labour bought VAT down for a year and it did sod all, granted you could try lower than the 15% of last time. So what's left? Print more money, well the last count at the BoE was more against last month than the month before that and anyway the money goes straight to the Banks who just sit on and do sod all. So we are left with cutting interest rates and this would appeal to George/David & Nick as this will mean paying off the deficit will cost less.

As for the IMF I believe we the Brits set that one up...Sod it.

Its about bloody time we were told what the true debt is.
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Old 05-25-12, 10:54 AM   #2
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Jim the last Labour bought VAT down for a year and it did sod all, granted you could try lower than the 15% of last time. So what's left? Print more money, well the last count at the BoE was more against last month than the month before that and anyway the money goes straight to the Banks who just sit on and do sod all. So we are left with cutting interest rates and this would appeal to George/David & Nick as this will mean paying off the deficit will cost less.

As for the IMF I believe we the Brits set that one up...Sod it.

Its about bloody time we were told what the true debt is.
I'm currently on 3 1/2% fixed for one year on ISA's which then drop to 1.5%

Basic accounts currently pay between .1% and .5%

The base rate of the BoE is/was 1/2% so how can it be cut any further?

Strange how the banks can charge between 8% and !)% to borrowers.
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Old 05-25-12, 01:07 PM   #3
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The base rate of the BoE is/was 1/2% so how can it be cut any further?
Easy 0.4% or 0.3% or 0.2% or 0.1% and yes you got it..0.0%.
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Old 05-25-12, 01:31 PM   #4
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I always wondered what would happen if SOVERIEGN nations told the IMF to copulate with themselves...

When did we let bankers like IMF, Federal Reserve, and Moodys (etc.) control the whim of nations?

Lots of rich folks in all our countries, but tons of empty pockets for nation building as a whole. To benefit all, not just the capitalist factions, but the people as a whole.

Some of you took Alan Keynes way too seriously, and we are all paying the piper.

Nations are people, not GDP, NOT MONETARY FIGURES, WE ARE PEOPLE.
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Yeah and get rid of the Federal Reserve too, it is unconstitutional, and does not serve anybody (unless your name is on their rolodex), and only hinders the world (majority) as a whole. Both IMF and the Fed.

(I.e: lets start with commodities being pegged in dollars, quantative easing (printing money) to feed underwater banks, causes inflation. So forth and so on...) Now oil (pork bellies,, coffee etc) is worth way more, thanks to inflation, add that to wage stagnation, and you got a 1% perfect storm of profit.

edit: I also wonder what would happen to the IMF if the big 4 (US, GB, France, and Germany) were to pull back investment funding....*giggle*

I think it is time to show them who really holds the power....

The people!

OK bank of America, and moodys, and standard and poors, lets see your money and gold beat a tank, and a batallion of angry marines.
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Old 05-26-12, 04:44 AM   #5
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I always wondered what would happen if SOVERIEGN nations told the IMF to copulate with themselves...

When did we let bankers like IMF, Federal Reserve, and Moodys (etc.) control the whim of nations?

Lots of rich folks in all our countries, but tons of empty pockets for nation building as a whole. To benefit all, not just the capitalist factions, but the people as a whole.

Some of you took Alan Keynes way too seriously, and we are all paying the piper.

Nations are people, not GDP, NOT MONETARY FIGURES, WE ARE PEOPLE.
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Yeah and get rid of the Federal Reserve too, it is unconstitutional, and does not serve anybody (unless your name is on their rolodex), and only hinders the world (majority) as a whole. Both IMF and the Fed.

(I.e: lets start with commodities being pegged in dollars, quantative easing (printing money) to feed underwater banks, causes inflation. So forth and so on...) Now oil (pork bellies,, coffee etc) is worth way more, thanks to inflation, add that to wage stagnation, and you got a 1% perfect storm of profit.

edit: I also wonder what would happen to the IMF if the big 4 (US, GB, France, and Germany) were to pull back investment funding....*giggle*

I think it is time to show them who really holds the power....

The people!

OK bank of America, and moodys, and standard and poors, lets see your money and gold beat a tank, and a batallion of angry marines.
Give that man a pint of beer.

I agree.
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Old 05-26-12, 04:46 AM   #6
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Here's some wise words.

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I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
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Cutting interests always means a redistribution from the people to the state, since it eats up private savings and saving plans.

That's why the all-time low in intersts for Germany is not a nice thing for germany, but is a signal of dangerous crisis. The crisis it indicates just breaks out with delay.
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Jefferson couldn't have said that, as the word "deflation" was not used as in the sense of an economic concept in his day.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp
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