China fake parts 'used in US military equipment'

[Ducimus]

Everything our military uses, should be made in the US. Relying on parts, products, equipment made anywhere else, is a major logistical weakness and in a wartime scenario, opens the doors to sabotage and other forms of underhandedness. On top of that, getting equipment from foriegn vendors detracts from our own local economies.

This situation is INCREDIBLY stupid.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Everything our military uses, should be made in the US.

Ummmmm....




How about the DoD just stops buying from China?

[Stealhead]

I fully agree with TLAM on this one.

Also you forgot

Belgian




German


Italian




Sweeeeedish!!!!!!!!!


Sure some of these are made in the US the F&Ns(the Belgians) are made by F&N USA and the H&Ks are made by H&KUSA but they are foreign designs and the parent companies are foreign.I do not care where it comes from so long as it not an enemy state and so long as it is the best available/most effective choice.F&N has large contract to produce M-16/M-4 parts as well.

By the way there is a DOD program that allows you to search through all DOD supply contractors another guy in my unit was searching though it one day many items are made by prisoners in the US prison system much of the clothing for example and even some electronic components.

[Stealhead]

Oh and do not forget the Packard-Merlin.

Ignore this post I had a brain fart and it will not let me delete it

[Morts]

Found a few more
M3 Carl Gustav, Sig P228, Sig P229, Glock 19, HK416, MP5, MP7.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...._Armed_Forces

[Stealhead]

Some of those are more unique weapons used by elite forces though and are in smaller numbers I admit that showing the Mk23 is a bit of cheat because it is not in common use but you are correct I am not sure about the Glock 19 though that will find only as a personally procured weapon on elite troops the sigs are used by Navy SEALs as an issued weapon.The HK416 was only tested as well and not officially adopted if you want to split hairs.

[Ducimus]

I make no apologies for my love of country, and firm belief that the things we use should be made here.

EDIT: By the way, the M9, while an italian design is made in the US, so you can remove the picture of the Beretta 92fs.

[Bilge_Rat]

Harrier II also, British design and partially built in the UK.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I make no apologies for my love of country, and firm belief that the things we use should be made here.

EDIT: By the way, the M9, while an italian design is made in the US, so you can remove the picture of the Beretta 92fs.

I will not because the parent company is Italian and therefore the capital goes to the Italian owners.Also some of the parts are still made outside the US.

What does love of your country have anything to do with it? I love my country yet do not share your opinion on this matter.I am no fan of globalization but international trade and international exchange of ideas and weapons among your allies is really a good thing not bad and the US benefits far more from selling of gear to others how many nations fly F-16s and AH-64s,SH-60s,C-130s? Plenty we buy relatively inexpensive small arms they buy very expensive aircraft it is a good trade off.

A good military will rise to the challenge of any supply issue hell in the Marines they always joke about the quality of most gear in WWII they came up with genius ways to solve logistical and parts problems.In my job in the Air Force we where always low on funds and the brass would tell us do not order a new part make the old one work take two broken machines and make one working one and we did it murphy's law nothing goes according to plan plan for failures plan for things to go wrong find a way to solve the problem that was the mentality in my units. Remember everything that you use was made by the lowest bidding contractor regardless of where it came from.