Silent Hunter Online - Page 21

Hinrich Schwab · 05-20-12, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

Unless of course the "sm" they are using the German term for nautical miles "SeeMeile"

It's entirely possible.

However, considering past iterations, one can see why it is so easy to assume worst-case-scenario.

TheDarkWraith · 05-20-12, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hinrich Schwab

It's entirely possible.

However, considering past iterations, one can see why it is so easy to assume worst-case-scenario.

with Ubi or anyone related to them you cannot give them BOD (benefit of the doubt) anymore

Sonarman · 05-20-12, 12:40 PM

Whilst I understand and agree with your sentiments entirely, I believe it's a German team so it's quite possible that this is something they got right!

kapitan_zur_see · 05-20-12, 06:50 PM

Errr... pardon me if I'm wrong but...
Wasn't a type IIA supposed to be able to go 7 kn underwater and around 13 surfaced??

Seriously, 13 kn submerged and 17 surfaced, that's almost double submerged!!

Geared towards simmers...?

Well, one can only assume it's difficulty setting for those more casual players.

Sailor Steve · 05-20-12, 08:17 PM

You're right. I didn't even notice that. Those numbers have nothing to do with real life.

Hinrich Schwab · 05-20-12, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kapitan_zur_see

Errr... pardon me if I'm wrong but...
Wasn't a type IIA supposed to be able to go 7 kn underwater and around 13 surfaced??

Seriously, 13 kn submerged and 17 surfaced, that's almost double submerged!!

Geared towards simmers...?

Well, one can only assume it's difficulty setting for those more casual players.

I missed it too.

Did you see the green numbers in parentheses? They are bonuses from items, apparently. I'd bet good money I don't have that those ludicrously unrealistic bonuses are from twinkies that you either have to grind or purchase.

Calling this a sim is ridiculous.

Onkel Neal · 05-20-12, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonarman

To be exact they said (in the SHO FAQ)...

Q: The Silent Hunter games have always been very complex simulations. Is Silent Hunter Online now focusing exclusively on casual gamers?

A: No. The switch to a browser-based game means that Silent Hunter Online will be accessible to everyone, and will therefore remain faithful to the game’s basic concept. While we are always delighted to attract all kinds of new players, Silent Hunter Online is in no way a simplistic arcade action game. The game is geared to submarine simulation fans as well as players who enjoy strategic and tactical naval combat in a realistic World War II scenario. Every battle still requires a meticulous tactical approach, careful preparation and precise execution.

I'm looking forward to trying it and seeing for myself. Who knows...

CaliEs · 05-20-12, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kapitan_zur_see

Seriously, 13 kn submerged and 17 surfaced

Where do you find these numbers? Link?
What i see is course 129deg, speed 5, 8m depth http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/or...-Online_01.jpg

Sailor Steve · 05-21-12, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliEs

Where do you find these numbers? Link?

Link provided by Sonarman in post #298.

Kapitan_Phillips · 05-21-12, 10:03 AM

I'm thinking since its still under development, they likely haven't set the figures like speed and such. More likely they just loaded up what they've got in order to take the screenshot.

Sbygneus · 05-21-12, 10:15 AM

I am quite happy someone still makes any submarine games after SH5 failure. Who knows, maybe Silent Hunter Online will be at least funny. I only regret you wouldnt have option commanding destroyer. (Sub chaser vs submarine type of multiplayer game would be

unterseemann · 05-21-12, 10:36 AM

13kn submerged, who do they think we are?? Seriously wtf with them??
The characteristics of a type II-A uboat can be found at uboat.net
http://uboat.net/types/iia.htm

It took me 5 minutes to figure them, i think they take some info there ( see the max depth at 492 ft, the 22 crew) and they are not able just to copy them properly... Range is 1600 miles sf (surfaced) at 8knots, and 35 miles sm (submerged) at 4 knots even a six-year old child can do this. And the U-3, the U-791 and U-339 had never been to Saint Nazaire...
And when you read the speed of the U-3 there is a '+12%' into bracket. So with a 0% the initial speed would be a very good 11.6kn. What i want to know now is the speed of a type XXI? 50kn? 100kn? . And what about the torpedoes?? Maybe this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval

When you do a historical sim-game about submarines during WW2, the minimum is to try to stick to reality as much as possible... If you can't or don't want to then leave it and develop angry birds 23 and others childish entertainment for brainless people...
Anyway i return to SH3-4 and don't count on me for this s...
Et c'est mon dernier mot!

Hinrich Schwab · 05-21-12, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by unterseemann

13kn submerged, who do they think we are?? Seriously wtf with them??
The characteristics of a type II-A uboat can be found at uboat.net
http://uboat.net/types/iia.htm

It took me 5 minutes to figure them, i think they take some info there ( see the max depth at 492 ft, the 22 crew) and they are not able just to copy them properly... Range is 1600 miles sf (surfaced) at 8knots, and 35 miles sm (submerged) at 4 knots even a six-year old child can do this. And the U-3, the U-791 and U-339 had never been to Saint Nazaire...
And when you read the speed of the U-3 there is a '+12%' into bracket. So with a 0% the initial speed would be a very good 11.6kn. What i want to know now is the speed of a type XXI? 50kn? 100kn? . And what about the torpedoes?? Maybe this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval

When you do a historical sim-game about submarines during WW2, the minimum is to try to stick to reality as much as possible... If you can't or don't want to then leave it and develop angry birds 23 and others childish entertainment for brainless people...
Anyway i return to SH3-4 and don't count on me for this s...
Et c'est mon dernier mot!

It is just an example of the type of player that Ubi really wants; people unaware of the historical realities of u-boat performance so as to be willing to purchase the "upgrades". The Old Gang and the Grognars are not the target of this game* at all.

(* I refuse to call this a sim because of the disregard for obvious historical limitations.)

Kapitan_Phillips · 05-21-12, 03:28 PM

Wow, you lot really know how to overreact.

nikimcbee · 05-21-12, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitan_Phillips

Wow, you lot really know how to overreact.

Hey Kp, good to see you!

05-20-12, 12:40 PM	#303
Sonarman The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ayr,Scotland,UK Posts: 1,392 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	Whilst I understand and agree with your sentiments entirely, I believe it's a German team so it's quite possible that this is something they got right! __________________ "The action is simulated...the excitement is real!" Microprose Simulation Software.

05-20-12, 06:50 PM	#304
kapitan_zur_see Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: France Posts: 614 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Errr... pardon me if I'm wrong but... Wasn't a type IIA supposed to be able to go 7 kn underwater and around 13 surfaced?? Seriously, 13 kn submerged and 17 surfaced, that's almost double submerged!! Geared towards simmers...? Well, one can only assume it's difficulty setting for those more casual players. __________________

05-20-12, 08:17 PM	#305
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	You're right. I didn't even notice that. Those numbers have nothing to do with real life. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

05-21-12, 10:03 AM	#310
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	I'm thinking since its still under development, they likely haven't set the figures like speed and such. More likely they just loaded up what they've got in order to take the screenshot. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.

05-21-12, 10:36 AM	#312
unterseemann Soundman Join Date: May 2005 Location: lyon, france Posts: 144 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	13kn submerged, who do they think we are?? Seriously wtf with them?? The characteristics of a type II-A uboat can be found at uboat.net http://uboat.net/types/iia.htm It took me 5 minutes to figure them, i think they take some info there ( see the max depth at 492 ft, the 22 crew) and they are not able just to copy them properly... Range is 1600 miles sf (surfaced) at 8knots, and 35 miles sm (submerged) at 4 knots even a six-year old child can do this. And the U-3, the U-791 and U-339 had never been to Saint Nazaire... And when you read the speed of the U-3 there is a '+12%' into bracket. So with a 0% the initial speed would be a very good 11.6kn. What i want to know now is the speed of a type XXI? 50kn? 100kn? . And what about the torpedoes?? Maybe this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VA-111_Shkval When you do a historical sim-game about submarines during WW2, the minimum is to try to stick to reality as much as possible... If you can't or don't want to then leave it and develop angry birds 23 and others childish entertainment for brainless people... Anyway i return to SH3-4 and don't count on me for this s... Et c'est mon dernier mot! __________________

05-21-12, 10:15 AM	#311
Sbygneus Electrician's Mate Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 137 Downloads: 190 Uploads: 0	I am quite happy someone still makes any submarine games after SH5 failure. Who knows, maybe Silent Hunter Online will be at least funny. I only regret you wouldnt have option commanding destroyer. (Sub chaser vs submarine type of multiplayer game would be

05-21-12, 03:28 PM	#314
Kapitan_Phillips Silent Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swansea Posts: 3,903 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Wow, you lot really know how to overreact. __________________ Well, here's another nice mess you've gotten me into.