Facebook debuts, social-networking stocks fall

em2nought · 05-19-12, 10:14 PM

Derivatives are a much more attractive purchase, just ask the big guys.

Catfish · 05-20-12, 05:31 AM

Anything that is traded on the stock market is not really worth it - all directions. From oil to money itself, it just gets more expensive by the second without being based on reality. It is just hype played by professional and criminal gamblers.

STEED · 05-20-12, 05:37 AM

How to make money from nothing that makes money, the world has truly gone bonkers.

Wait a minute their is something...Your information!

Platapus · 05-20-12, 05:55 AM

When the service is free, the customer IS the product being sold.

Gerald · 05-20-12, 06:49 AM

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Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg has ended a hectic week which saw his company valued at £106bn after a stock market flotation by getting married.

He wed his long-time girlfriend Priscilla Chan, 27, in a ceremony at his home in Palo Alto, California.

Chan also had a busy week, graduating from medical school on Monday, as Zuckerberg marked his 28th birthday.

The guests believed they were going to celebrate Chan's graduation - but found they were at a wedding instead.

The wedding ring, a "very simple ruby", was designed by Zuckerberg.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18135564

Note: Update record, 20 May 2012 Last updated at 02:16 GMT

STEED · 05-20-12, 06:55 AM

Din't he make some sort of comment calling people stupid BLEEPS for showing the world personal info.

Seem to recall reading some where on the Internet.

Gerald · 05-20-12, 07:07 AM

When it comes to money, so taken all necessary steps to reach the top...

nikimcbee · 05-20-12, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

How to make money from nothing that makes money, the world has truly gone bonkers.

Wait a minute their is something...Your information!

So how many shares did you buy Steed?

Onkel Neal · 05-20-12, 08:58 PM

I admit, I have been very interested in Facebook since I first saw it in UH around 2007. I always enjoy seeing groundbreaking ideas come to life and change the world. (Just finished reading The Social Network, halfway through The Facebook Effect). FB is indeed a game changer, even though it is essentially a function of the Internet--connecting everyone. What FB does better than Subsim, MySpace, Geocities, Friendster, LinkedIn, etc is harness an effective strategic vision and execute it. Who doesn't admire that? And think--when you were 20, did you have the kind of snap that Zuckerburg had? Haha, I would have jumped out of my combat boots to sell FB to Viacom when they offered $800 million CASH in 2005.

There is a lot of value in a utility in a company like FB that has cemented itself as a cornerstone of the web. Now, at some point in the future, it's likely FB will be considered "unhip" and be replaced by the next latest thing. Will be interesting to see how that evolves.

Skybird · 05-21-12, 04:46 AM

No chance I will ever join it. Call me a relic of the paper-notebook era, but I am far less dependent that way than if I always need to carry smartphone or laptop around with me. Facebook also does not offer me what real vis-a-vis meeting, or a paper letter that actually needs some time, heart and energy to be written down, are offering. It is an instant quicky disguising itself as a "social life". And in the end, it turns people into products to be sold.

When I hear from a close friend's husband (who is school teacher) that pupils refuse to join a school trip holiday if there is no guaranteed internet access (a spreading phenomenon that I recently also read about somewhere in the media), then I think something goes totally wrong.

Friends on facebook are no friends. Social networks are not really social. A circle of friends counting by the hundreds or even thousands, is an erosion of the term. - what remains of Facebook when you substract what I criticise, is nopthing that you also could not run and maintain in your real life, via phone, skype, or real meetings.

Plus you get not profiled inside out by people of whom you know nothing what they do with your data and profiles. If I should join Facebook and sell my data, then they have to pay me. With more real value than just this cheap strange "service". If I am seen as a product, than at least a more precious one.

And no, I am not headed back to the stoneage and am no principle enemy of technology, by far not. I just do not loose my head over running blindly after it.

Sailor Steve · 05-21-12, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Friends on facebook are no friends.

Bull. While I agree completely with almost everything you've said, including the whole hundreds-of-friends crap, it depends on how you use it. My friends on FaceBook are exactly the same as my friends on Subsim: Friends. Either some one I know or have known personally, people I've worked with online or seen post enough online to consider them actual friends. FaceBook is my only regular contact with my kids, and with friends in other cities. If you can't tell the difference then you should stay away from it.

Unfortunately you're right for the most part. Most people don't seem to be able to tell the difference, so they do have hundreds of "friends" whom they don't know and don't really care to. All my friends are people I care about.

05-19-12, 10:14 PM	#1
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,485 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Derivatives are a much more attractive purchase, just ask the big guys. __________________ em2nought is ecstatic garbage!

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STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	How to make money from nothing that makes money, the world has truly gone bonkers. Wait a minute their is something...Your information! __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,403 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	When the service is free, the customer IS the product being sold. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

05-20-12, 06:55 AM	#6
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Din't he make some sort of comment calling people stupid BLEEPS for showing the world personal info. Seem to recall reading some where on the Internet. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT! Last edited by STEED; 05-20-12 at 07:23 AM.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,807 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Anything that is traded on the stock market is not really worth it - all directions. From oil to money itself, it just gets more expensive by the second without being based on reality. It is just hype played by professional and criminal gamblers.

05-20-12, 08:58 PM	#9
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I admit, I have been very interested in Facebook since I first saw it in UH around 2007. I always enjoy seeing groundbreaking ideas come to life and change the world. (Just finished reading The Social Network, halfway through The Facebook Effect). FB is indeed a game changer, even though it is essentially a function of the Internet--connecting everyone. What FB does better than Subsim, MySpace, Geocities, Friendster, LinkedIn, etc is harness an effective strategic vision and execute it. Who doesn't admire that? And think--when you were 20, did you have the kind of snap that Zuckerburg had? Haha, I would have jumped out of my combat boots to sell FB to Viacom when they offered $800 million CASH in 2005. There is a lot of value in a utility in a company like FB that has cemented itself as a cornerstone of the web. Now, at some point in the future, it's likely FB will be considered "unhip" and be replaced by the next latest thing. Will be interesting to see how that evolves.

05-21-12, 04:46 AM	#10
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,729 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	No chance I will ever join it. Call me a relic of the paper-notebook era, but I am far less dependent that way than if I always need to carry smartphone or laptop around with me. Facebook also does not offer me what real vis-a-vis meeting, or a paper letter that actually needs some time, heart and energy to be written down, are offering. It is an instant quicky disguising itself as a "social life". And in the end, it turns people into products to be sold. When I hear from a close friend's husband (who is school teacher) that pupils refuse to join a school trip holiday if there is no guaranteed internet access (a spreading phenomenon that I recently also read about somewhere in the media), then I think something goes totally wrong. Friends on facebook are no friends. Social networks are not really social. A circle of friends counting by the hundreds or even thousands, is an erosion of the term. - what remains of Facebook when you substract what I criticise, is nopthing that you also could not run and maintain in your real life, via phone, skype, or real meetings. Plus you get not profiled inside out by people of whom you know nothing what they do with your data and profiles. If I should join Facebook and sell my data, then they have to pay me. With more real value than just this cheap strange "service". If I am seen as a product, than at least a more precious one. And no, I am not headed back to the stoneage and am no principle enemy of technology, by far not. I just do not loose my head over running blindly after it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.