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[pickler]

not much doenitz could do. industrial might of ussr+usa=win. even if hitler had allocated more steel and aluminum resources to the kriegsmarine the panzer armies in the east would have suffered a bigger blow still and russians would have reached berlin much sooner, so it wouldn't even matter if doenitz was keeping the shipping lanes harassed. even in happy times the germans were only sinking half of what they needed to starve briton. it was too little too late.

it was all about who controlled the air. If the luftwaffe cleared the skies of bogies then german submarines could have had better survivability. the luftwaffe was never the same after the battle of britain. Germany was in deep sh%# by 1941 and not '43.

i think doenitz did everything a good sea commander would have done with the exception of setting uboats to sea even after the may 1943, but that was orders from hitler. type xxi was a waste of resources as much as maus, tiger II, me-262 and x-missiles. they should have mass produced a cheaper more hydrodynamic smaller submarine when USA entered the war.

Originally Posted by pickler

not much doenitz could do. industrial might of ussr+usa=win. even if hitler had allocated more steel and aluminum resources to the kriegsmarine the panzer armies in the east would have suffered a bigger blow still and russians would have reached berlin much sooner, so it wouldn't even matter if doenitz was keeping the shipping lanes harassed. even in happy times the germans were only sinking half of what they needed to starve briton. it was too little too late.

it was all about who controlled the air. If the luftwaffe cleared the skies of bogies then german submarines could have had better survivability. the luftwaffe was never the same after the battle of britain. Germany was in deep sh%# by 1941 and not '43.

i think doenitz did everything a good sea commander would have done with the exception of setting uboats to sea even after the may 1943, but that was orders from hitler. type xxi was a waste of resources as much as maus, tiger II, me-262 and x-missiles. they should have mass produced a cheaper more hydrodynamic smaller submarine when USA entered the war.

Not exactly Doenitz call but had Germany waited on starting the war to amass more U boats and wait a LONG time to attack Russia, plus possibly get the Type XXI and the 262 into service quicker, the war would have turned out extremely differently.

[Dread Knot]

Originally Posted by USNSRCaseySmith

and wait a LONG time to attack Russia, .

This basically gives the Red Army more time to reorganize itself after the 1930s purges and disasterous Winter War in Finland which it was rapidly in the process of doing in early 1941. It also give the Soviets more time to build up their industrial base in the Urals which was also trending before war erupted between Hitler and Stalin. If Hitler waits to attack Russia, he attacks a more formidable Russia.

Hitler's obession with finding Lebensraum in the East doomed his efforts before they even started.

Originally Posted by Dread Knot

This basically gives the Red Army more time to reorganize itself after the 1930s purges and disasterous Winter War in Finland which it was rapidly in the process of doing in early 1941. It also give the Soviets more time to build up their industrial base in the Urals which was also trending before war erupted between Hitler and Stalin. If Hitler waits to attack Russia, he attacks a more formidable Russia.

Hitler's obession with finding Lebensraum in the East doomed his efforts before they even started.

True, Well in that case they shouldnt have attacked Russia, opening up that second front and then not being prepared for winter doomed them. Those resources as others had said could have been used elsewhere.