[REL] Open Horizons II - Page 78

Swat · 05-04-12, 04:35 PM

You must have gone crazy guys. Outstanding work. Thank you.

gap · 05-04-12, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Penang Harbour and Wharf 1943

Have to agree with Swat: your attention for detail looks insane. Man, you need for a leave!

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

I would also thank uekel again for all his help with this project - giving us his ships and land units

yep, credits definitely deserved!

gap · 05-05-12, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Penang Harbour and Wharf 1943

Out of curiosity: have you managed to "move" KMO on piers?

Trevally. · 05-05-12, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

Out of curiosity: have you managed to "move" KMO on piers?

No - I have not looked at it again.

I have finished the environment layer and am now half way through the airbase. Had to make new airbases for this to follow as close as I can the planes used. I am using your great MonsCampData.xls

Hope to also finish today the harbour layer with all the buoys, mines and nets

gap · 05-05-12, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Had to make new airbases for this to follow as close as I can the planes used. I am using your great MonsCampData.xls

Wait...
in the last posted version of MonsCampData.xls I have managed to mess somehow the order of operated aircraft. It had to happen when I sorted bases and squadrons, as I forgot to include the aircraft column in the sorting process.

Here's a link to an updated version of the spreadsheet, with correct aircraft-squadron matches. It includes also RAAF Airfields and Squadrons:

http://www.mediafire.com/?1m1452mmz3i3jez

By the way of matching airplanes, guess what?
I've discovered that AOTD_RDA contains the PBY5 Catalina:

It is contained in the AS_USFloatEarlyWar folder of the mod (path: data\Air).
Provided that it doesn't affect too much the performance of the game, I think it would be worth to include this single airplane in MC. With the permission of our German friends, of course!

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Hope to also finish today the harbour layer with all the buoys, mines and nets

Great!

gap · 05-05-12, 09:38 AM

Airbases map update, including Australian bases.

Many airfields in North-Eastern Australia, only one on the South-Western coast...

I will inquire with Sober the rationale beneath it, but in the meanwhile it seems we got a good hunting spot

Trevally. · 05-05-12, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gap

Wait...
in the last posted version of MonsCampData.xls I have managed to mess somehow the order of operated aircraft. It had to happen when I sorted bases and squadrons, as I forgot to include the aircraft column in the sorting process.

Here's a link to an updated version of the spreadsheet, with correct aircraft-squadron matches. It includes also RAAF Airfields and Squadrons:

http://www.mediafire.com/?1m1452mmz3i3jez

Thanks gap - I will update

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By the way of matching airplanes, guess what?
I've discovered that AOTD_RDA contains the PBY5 Catalina:

As the Catalina was the main plane used for anti-uboat in the Indian Ocean (esp Ceylon), I have set the airbases to use them more than any other.

Here is the plane I am using currently

Code:

 
; Stand in for Catalina
[Unit]
ClassName=SUSFloatEarlyWar
3DModelFileName=data/Air/AS_USFloatEarlyWar/FloatingPlane
UnitType=304
MaxSpeed=169
MinSpeed=60
MaxRadius=1600
Length=19.5
Width=31.7
RenownAwarded=40
CrewComplement=8
SurvivalRate=60
SurvivalPercentage=70
 
[Loadout 1]
Name=1xDepth Charge
Type=5

gap · 05-05-12, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

As the Catalina was the main plane used for anti-uboat in the Indian Ocean (esp Ceylon), I have set the airbases to use them more than any other.

Here is the plane I am using currently

what aircraft is that?

In MC we should have 2 types of flying boats: the Short Sunderland, and the Caonsolidated PBY Catalina.
As Short Sunderland is already modelled in stock game, we need to include in OH II only the Catalina. If you agree, and with the mermission of its creators, I would use the one from AOTD_RDA. As far as I can see it looks pretty similar to the real thing... much more than the one represented in your screenshot

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Code:

; Stand in for Catalina
[Unit]
ClassName=SUSFloatEarlyWar
3DModelFileName=data/Air/AS_USFloatEarlyWar/FloatingPlane
UnitType=304
MaxSpeed=169
MinSpeed=60
MaxRadius=1600
Length=19.5
Width=31.7
RenownAwarded=40
CrewComplement=8
SurvivalRate=60
SurvivalPercentage=70
 
[Loadout 1]
Name=1xDepth Charge
Type=5

These settings look okay, except for the loadout, I think.
Anyway, in case you didn't notice it, I have included basic plane's specs in the last page of my spreadsheet. Lenght and width not included, but it is easy to get them from wikipedia, or from any other website

quink99 · 05-05-12, 01:53 PM

Trevally, the vast majority of Catalinas used by both the United States and the Commonwealth countries were of the PBY-4 variety as shown here.............

While they may, indeed, have existed, I don't recall ever seeing a Catalina with three engines and that very different empanage structure or wing strut arrangement as shown in post #1163.

Since Catalinas were frequently used all over the various Atlantic Campaigns as well as the Indian Ocean and the Pacific maybe we can place them in the Alantic Campaigns as well.

Keep up the great work!!!!

Husksubsky · 05-05-12, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevally.

Use Sober's list - mine is out of date - I will update it shortly

thx

Trevally. · 05-05-12, 05:22 PM

BIGREG · 05-05-12, 05:38 PM

Hi

It may be here that I must request to put in its place Dunkirk (in France not in Belgium)

THE_MASK · 05-05-12, 07:10 PM

There would be no major bases north of perth (capital of western australia) because of distances, logistics , terrain , weather (cyclones,hurricanes) etc .

gazzmetrik · 05-05-12, 09:15 PM

Hi! I don't wanna digress from the main discussion that's currently happening but I have a few questions.

Does sending contact reports with convoys/task forces in visual range have any outcome pre Wolfpack campaign? I followed a 20 ship convoy for almost 2 days east-southeast from eastern coast of england with no other u-boats arriving.

Thanks! Sorry for the side step. Love this mod! Keep up the fantastic work Trevally!

EDIT: date is Jan 20 1940

Trevally. · 05-06-12, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGREG

Hi

It may be here that I must request to put in its place Dunkirk (in France not in Belgium)

Hi BigReg

I am happy to report the Dunkirk is now back in France where it belongs

It was always set as a French base - only the political map did not cover it

05-04-12, 04:35 PM	#1156
Swat 中国水兵 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Czech Republic Prague Posts: 286 Downloads: 224 Uploads: 0	You must have gone crazy guys. Outstanding work. Thank you. __________________ First Patrol Of U-21 Part 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqBqInzBaGc First Patrol Of U-21 Part 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWqyTaomDjM

05-05-12, 01:53 PM	#1164
quink99 中国水兵 Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 278 Downloads: 941 Uploads: 0	Trevally, the vast majority of Catalinas used by both the United States and the Commonwealth countries were of the PBY-4 variety as shown here............. While they may, indeed, have existed, I don't recall ever seeing a Catalina with three engines and that very different empanage structure or wing strut arrangement as shown in post #1163. Since Catalinas were frequently used all over the various Atlantic Campaigns as well as the Indian Ocean and the Pacific maybe we can place them in the Alantic Campaigns as well. Keep up the great work!!!! Last edited by quink99; 05-05-12 at 02:04 PM.

05-05-12, 05:22 PM	#1166
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	How to edit the PoliticalTerritory1939.mis __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

05-05-12, 05:38 PM	#1167
BIGREG Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bretagne-FRANCE Posts: 813 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	Hi It may be here that I must request to put in its place Dunkirk (in France not in Belgium) __________________ ~~~~BigReg~BigRegOne~~~~ "Better watch where you do not go, because where were going, we will know what it is when we get there, and anyway, it will never be only water." Proverbe Shadok

05-05-12, 09:38 AM	#1161
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Airbases map update, including Australian bases. Many airfields in North-Eastern Australia, only one on the South-Western coast... I will inquire with Sober the rationale beneath it, but in the meanwhile it seems we got a good hunting spot

05-05-12, 07:10 PM	#1168
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	There would be no major bases north of perth (capital of western australia) because of distances, logistics , terrain , weather (cyclones,hurricanes) etc .

05-05-12, 09:15 PM	#1169
gazzmetrik Watch Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 16 Downloads: 117 Uploads: 0	Hi! I don't wanna digress from the main discussion that's currently happening but I have a few questions. Does sending contact reports with convoys/task forces in visual range have any outcome pre Wolfpack campaign? I followed a 20 ship convoy for almost 2 days east-southeast from eastern coast of england with no other u-boats arriving. Thanks! Sorry for the side step. Love this mod! Keep up the fantastic work Trevally! EDIT: date is Jan 20 1940