Neutral Shipping

Sailor Steve · 04-17-12, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by VONHARRIS

Any comments are accepted.

Nothing to comment on, or at least argue with. Your reason is good to you, and mine is good to me. As I said, I also have AXIS set for -1 rather than -10. Several Axis ships were sunk by u-boats, and in every case it was determined that the target was in the wrong place or it was disguised as an Allied ship. I keep my NEUTRAL set at zero so I'm not tempted to just sink all the neutrals.

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Originally Posted by LGN1

Hi,

my solution to this problem is to randomize the value for 'neutral' via SH3 Commander.

That is brilliant! How exactly did you set it to get that result?

LGN1 · 04-18-12, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That is brilliant! How exactly did you set it to get that result?

Hi Sailor Steve,

just add these lines to the 'Randomised events.cfg' file:

[0:data\Cfg\Basic.cfg]
ChooseFrom=2
RndMidPat=1

0_RENOWN|NEUTRAL=0
1_RENOWN|NEUTRAL=-1

Depending whether you already have entries that alter the Basic.cfg file, you will have to change the 0 to a different number.

The lines above will result in a 50% chance that you will get penalized when sinking neutrals. You can change the probability by adapting the ChooseFrom value and adding more entries, e.g.,

ChooseFrom=3
RndMidPat=1

0_RENOWN|NEUTRAL=0
1_RENOWN|NEUTRAL=-1
2_RENOWN|NEUTRAL=-1

--> 66% chance that you will get penalized....

Regards, LGN1

VONHARRIS · 04-18-12, 02:32 PM

Thank you LGN1.

It will add to the game.

Sailor Steve · 04-18-12, 03:54 PM

Pretty neat deal. Thanks.

Captain Nemo · 04-19-12, 04:51 AM

My main problem with how SH3 handles neutrals is that when using TC the watchcrew never verbally shouts "ship spotted". TC drops to x1 but I know straight away I'm dealing with a neutral because there was no verbal annoucement to go with the drop in TC. You can also increase TC to whatever you want in the presence of a neutral which you can't do if an enemy ship is in range. Same applies to aircraft.

Nemo

RConch · 04-19-12, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

My main problem with how SH3 handles neutrals is that when using TC the watchcrew never verbally shouts "ship spotted". TC drops to x1 but I know straight away I'm dealing with a neutral because there was no verbal annoucement to go with the drop in TC. You can also increase TC to whatever you want in the presence of a neutral which you can't do if an enemy ship is in range. Same applies to aircraft.

Nemo

My experience is if the TC doesn't go above 32 after it is spotted-it is an enemy.
Also if you hit one with a torpedo-the crew does not cheer. Dead silence on board.

Captain Nemo · 04-19-12, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rconch

My experience is if the TC doesn't go above 32 after it is spotted-it is an enemy.
Also if you hit one with a torpedo-the crew does not cheer. Dead silence on board.

Same here. No need to identify if the ship is neutral or not, the way it's handled in TC gives it away.

Nemo

04-18-12, 03:54 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Pretty neat deal. Thanks. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-19-12, 04:51 AM	#5
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	My main problem with how SH3 handles neutrals is that when using TC the watchcrew never verbally shouts "ship spotted". TC drops to x1 but I know straight away I'm dealing with a neutral because there was no verbal annoucement to go with the drop in TC. You can also increase TC to whatever you want in the presence of a neutral which you can't do if an enemy ship is in range. Same applies to aircraft. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

04-18-12, 02:32 PM	#3
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Thank you LGN1. It will add to the game.