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Old 04-16-12, 03:12 PM   #1
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Package arrived today.


Lots of questions I had were answered just flipping through the books.


Looking for proper colors to use for the texture I found this......


1944 20L MasterPattern

I'm nearly ready to check the new hull and deck work in Game but would like to get the textures placed on it.
So are the colors right? or can you give me a better selection?

http://www.pt103.com
Has some great reference stuff also.

As I was looking at the in-Game .50 cal for use to build the twin, I noticed the scale is wrong in areas but it's a good model to work with.
Now there's another area that I need to think on.
The twin .50's rotate in two areas right? At the first mounting point below the Guns. And then the whole thing rotates by useing your body, correct?
This may not be possible to do in SH4 correctly.
Once I get to modeling that area I'll try a few thoughts I have but no promises on it.

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Old 04-16-12, 04:13 PM   #2
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Rgr that. I'll look up the paint color later. Knee deep in work now.
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Old 04-17-12, 01:41 PM   #3
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Testing the new Hull and deck with black and white texture.

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Rgr that. I'll look up the paint color later. Knee deep in work now.

Some other schemes carried by PT boats were:
Measure 31/5P - This scheme utilized Navy Green and Ocean Green.
Measure 31/20L - This scheme combined Black, Green #2 and Green #3.

http://www.ptboatworld.com/PT_Boat_I...lorschemes.htm
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The image was a quick hull-deck for looking at UVeing things.
I'll add the colors to it after the hull-deck is reworked to bring it into proper shape.

Here's a great site for details.
http://louisdl.louislibraries.org/cd...ISOROOT=%2FHIC

I managed to cut together some great details on the shape of the deck and hull.


This is a very low version of what I have.
That's 2198 X 1236.

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Old 04-17-12, 06:50 PM   #6
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Here's a site that has large scale R?C PT Bpoats, with lots of cool pics and vids that might be helpful.

http://www.franksmosquitoboathobbies.com/intro.htm

Back in the mid 90s I constructed the Dumas 1/20th scale PT-109, which measured 48in. from stem to stern.

I finished it in solid forest green which I had phoyos from in the old Webster's WWII Encyclopedia. I also had some reseach info I found that stated in the early part of the war smaller vessels usually had a basic finish of dark green or forest green as they called it. Even DDs and DEs were done in that color.

Later in the war, different camo schemes were adopted from what was stated.

Glad to see the MTBs getting an overhaul! Would be neat if the early ELCOs could be seen like MTB Sq. 3 in Manila had.

Is it planned to overhaul the ELCO in SH4 too?

Looking forward to this, even if we only see them in harbors or close to bases.
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Old 04-17-12, 07:39 PM   #7
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Is it planned to overhaul the ELCO in SH4 too?

Looking forward to this, even if we only see them in harbors or close to bases.
Hopefully, we (privateer or willing modder) will be able to do this with late war load outs and correct configuration. The main goal for this mod is a playable Higgins.
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The Elco hull is kind of what I used in the above test pictures.

The Elco and Higgins Hulls are a close match but not perfect in several areas.

As nikimcbee (and the others involved with PT-658) want a Higgins? I want the Hull adjusted properly.
The stuff on Deck is simple but the Hull and Bridge areas make the Boat!
I spent days getting the best details to re-build the Hull.

Simple plans I found often mistake the Elco Hull with the Higgins and vis-versa.

By the way.
I did not know the 658 was slated to go to Russia but never delivered.
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Sounds good!

I know the trouble with the PTs, in the past, was getting the torpedoes to fire properly. Same issue plagued torpedo bombers, with dropping torpedoes, as they went all over the place, or would circle and head north.

Hope you guys get it sorted out!

The Higgins Boats would great for Medeterainian or English Channel career.
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