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Old 04-10-12, 07:10 PM   #16
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Other countries like all 50 of the United States?
Well, that is the State's choice and their courts are a bit different than SCOTUS.
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Old 04-10-12, 07:18 PM   #17
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I like your idea. I'd term limit everybody 1 term then you're out. I think that would get rid of a lot of corruption.

I like the idea of term limits for voters.
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Old 04-10-12, 09:44 PM   #18
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If the court had a liberal tilt, the conservatives would be screaming and the liberals would say everything is ok.
Hitting the nail on the head.
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Old 04-10-12, 10:05 PM   #19
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I can agree with congress and executive term limits, at all levels of government but not for the Courts.

Life terms are the beauty of the Supreme Court. It means that once they are seated they are no longer controllable. They can't be threatened by removal, they don't have to run for re-election and they can't be bribed with promotions.

Throughout it's history the SC has repeatedly ruled against the interests of the parties that nominated them. They really work only for their legacy as judges.

But you introduce term limits and the accompanying turnover and you change all of that. Two of our three branches of government are run by politicians willing to whore their ideals for campaign contributions. I see absolutely no need to make it a trifecta.
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I can agree with congress and executive term limits, at all levels of government but not for the Courts.

Life terms are the beauty of the Supreme Court. It means that once they are seated they are no longer controllable. They can't be threatened by removal, they don't have to run for re-election and they can't be bribed with promotions.

Throughout it's history the SC has repeatedly ruled against the interests of the parties that nominated them. They really work only for their legacy as judges.

But you introduce term limits and the accompanying turnover and you change all of that. Two of our three branches of government are run by politicians willing to whore their ideals for campaign contributions. I see absolutely no need to make it a trifecta.
I am amazed as we are in agrreement.

It may not be to my liking due to what I feel as bad decisions in the past, but it is a good insurance policy against corruption. Lifetime appointment means ideals will overtake the need to be elected, and gain donors...

Although the thing with Clarence Thomas' wife being a lobbyist kinda disturbs me....

Funny how after the pubic hair on the soda can he got let right in, yet Judge Sotomayor got grilled 10 times harder for her "proud latina" comment taken out of context.

I agree with the obvious conservative slant, though term limits do not help.

Though they should never, ever again decide an election...I am sorry it truly looks bad if your looking for objectivity...They loves the GOP.
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Old 04-10-12, 11:11 PM   #21
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I am amazed as we are in agrreement.

It may not be to my liking due to what I feel as bad decisions in the past, but it is a good insurance policy against corruption. Lifetime appointment means ideals will overtake the need to be elected, and gain donors...

Although the thing with Clarence Thomas' wife being a lobbyist kinda disturbs me....

Funny how after the pubic hair on the soda can he got let right in, yet Judge Sotomayor got grilled 10 times harder for her "proud latina" comment taken out of context.

I agree with the obvious conservative slant, though term limits do not help.

Though they should never, ever again decide an election...I am sorry it truly looks bad if your looking for objectivity...They loves the GOP.
Well maybe they won't need to decide another election if the loosing side doesn't try to finesse an election away from the rightful winner.

As for Justices Thomas and Sotomayor it sounds to me like you memories of the events have kind of a partisan slant to them.

BTW it was "wise" Latina not "proud". The entire quote is:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

You can take that any way that lets you sleep at night but to me such an apparently racist (and sexist) statement is at least something worth investigating.
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You can take that any way that lets you sleep at night but to me such an apparently racist (and sexist) statement is at least something worth investigating.
Context is important as most people here realised since when you take the whole statement that part cannot mean what some people were claiming it meant.
But don't tell Aramike as he gets stroppy over that

As for term limits on judges they can be a good or a bad thing, what strikes me as strange about the US system is there is no retirement age set and no method for removing incapable justices.
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Throughout it's history the SC has repeatedly ruled against the interests of the parties that nominated them.
To the annoyance of a great many presidents, who thought they were packing the courts in their favor.

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Well maybe they won't need to decide another election if the loosing side doesn't try to finesse an election away from the rightful winner.
Again The Florida Supreme Court tried to fiddle with the results. The Federal Court overturned it. Was the SCOTUS politically biased? Sure. That doesn't excuse the pot calling the kettle black, and it doesn't excuse the Florida Court, and it doesn't excuse all the political hacks who've been crying "Foul" for the last twelve years.

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As for Justices Thomas and Sotomayor it sounds to me like you memories of the events have kind of a partisan slant to them.
And again Thomas's nomination was opposed by a "secret" source whose name was not to be revealed. When that failed she came forward. Her word against his. Innocent until proven guilty. No real evidence. I think his supporters were wrong to use the trash tecniques they did, but she was really in no position to cry about it. Congress heard the testimony and decided in his favor. That's the way the system works. To whine about in now is pure partisan politics.
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