Creation >> DNA Code

[August]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I don't apply any standard at all. I asked you how you tell what to accept and what to reject, and your answer left me wondering even more.

Sorry, I answered it as best I can.

As to the Subsim reference, if someone claimed that Subsim was the Holy Word and key to my salvation I would be forced to call him an idiot. Should I treat the Bible the same way?

Treat the bible any way you want. I'm not asking you to live by it's principles. I believe in many of it's tenets and if that makes me an idiot in your eyes then I expect I can live with that.

There are scholars today who examine and take to task every translation, so the "retranslated" part doesn't really hold up. We know what it says, though there are differences in what people think it means.

Hmm, you seem to place a great deal of trust in the opinions of these scholars so far be it for me to challenge their findings but as far as I know no original Bible texts survive. I don't understand how they could be so sure that the present day version of the Bible is still the exact (translated) words and meanings of the original authors.

So what do you think of Jesus? Son Of God? Great teacher? Myth? The Gospels say what they say, and don't leave much to interpretation. Any of the options are possible, but I don't see how anyone can pick and choose to believe some and not the whole. I feel the same way about the Old Testament. Picking and choosing doesn't play out well. Of course, as you say, everything is personal, and all we can do is discuss it or ignore it.

Doesn't matter what I think, i'm not trying to proselytize you into anyone's church. As far as I know Jesus was all three: Son of God, Teacher AND myth. They aren't mutually exclusive things and after the fact embellishment is almost a given. George Washington didn't cut down a cherry tree, nor did he heave a dollar all the way across the Potomac river but that doesn't mean he wasn't the father of our country.

For the simple reason that Jesus is claimed to be The Son Of God, so his words carry more weight. No one ever told me that my immortal soul was hanging on the words of Thales. I can accept the claim that he said it 600 years before Christ without question because it means nothing if someone proves that he didn't say it. I lose nothing and gain nothing by accepting it as fact.

You loose or gain nothing either way if you don't believe in the first place Steve. If the bible is just a collection of ravings by religious lunatics then there is no Christ and you have no immortal soul to loose. It's your choice. That's what faith is all about.