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Old 03-26-12, 11:48 PM   #1
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Ah so the Oscars are the only SSGNs they have. It'd be interesting to see just what the Russian Navys aims are with their subs, be it to use them as force projection or brown water work in the Med and Caspian Sea.
The Yasen class has a VLS on the sides of the sail for SLCMs making it about as capable as a SSGN.

For the Caspian I doubt they will deploy submarines, they are however building some Buyan class corvettes.
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The Yasen class has a VLS on the sides of the sail for SLCMs making it about as capable as a SSGN.
Similar in capability to LAis and Virginias (in that respect)?

What munitions do the Russians have that compare to VLS launched TLAMs?
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Old 03-27-12, 05:36 AM   #3
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Similar in capability to LAis and Virginias (in that respect)?

What munitions do the Russians have that compare to VLS launched TLAMs?
I guess the 3M-54 Klub would be the closest?
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I guess the 3M-54 Klub would be the closest?
Going by a quick wikipedia search the 3M-54 system seems a little superior on paper to the Tomahawk, especially the E variant.
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Old 03-27-12, 09:18 AM   #5
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Going by a quick wikipedia search the 3M-54 system seems a little superior on paper to the Tomahawk, especially the E variant.
That is the anti-ship variant (one of them). It does have that nasty terminal stage but all variants lack the range of the Tomahawk.
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Old 03-27-12, 03:56 PM   #6
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To clear something up.

In service:

Northern fleet:
4 victor III
6 akulas
6 kilos
3 oscar II's
6 delta IV
1 typhoon as a trials boat

2 bories are currently on trail 1 building upto 10 planned in total

2 kilos are active in the baltic fleet with the lada under trails and 1 kilo alrosa is active in the black sea

Pacific fleet:
3 delta III
2 Oscar II's
7 kilos
5 akulas

as for the refitting for oscar II they are big noisey boats that are now getting old the youngest unit is around 15 years old now so its time they got something newer cheaper and more effective, however the missiles they do carry are very good and there isnt much if anything in any western armed force that could match the SS-N-19 shipwreck.
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as for the refitting for oscar II they are big noisey boats that are now getting old the youngest unit is around 15 years old now so its time they got something newer cheaper and more effective, however the missiles they do carry are very good and there isnt much if anything in any western armed force that could match the SS-N-19 shipwreck.
How noisy are Oscars, say in comparison to one of their SSNs or a Los Angeles class? (not improved)
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