What is the reason, for a war against Iran ?

Did i ever say any thing remotely like that or is it something that you would like to hear.?

Every instance of them can come from your own posts regarding the middle east situation. Would you like to go back through them?

Do you suffer from memory loss and fail to remember your own comments
It is far too easy to shoot you down on that angle it is ridiculous that you should even try to defend yourself along those lines.
So......

You was asked a simple question about the comments from the ex-head of Mossad in relation to this topic.
If you are uncomfortable with the plain truth expressed by him which anyone can see then simply say so, after all it is you and your family that gets the first round of consequences.
After all it is a simple question to answer.....is the current regimes beating of the war drums bloody stupid considering they know how inneffective the results would be despite their recently enhanced capabilities and taking into account the exhorbitant price the people would pay for those actions.

The line has been drawn.

It was a very valid question regarding the topic, does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?


For those that didn't get it , the person in question was the head of Mossad and his comments reflect exactly those of the bloke that was head of Shin Bet.
Bit of a sticker when it comes to the usual lines of defence MH regularly trots out regarding the mid-east

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Every instance of them can come from your own posts regarding the middle east situation. Would you like to go back through them?

Do you suffer from memory loss and fail to remember your own comments
It is far too easy to shoot you down on that angle it is ridiculous that you should even try to defend yourself along those lines.
So......

You was asked a simple question about the comments from the ex-head of Mossad in relation to this topic.
If you are uncomfortable with the plain truth expressed by him which anyone can see then simply say so, after all it is you and your family that gets the first round of consequences.
After all it is a simple question to answer.....is the current regimes beating of the war drums bloody stupid considering they know how inneffective the results would be despite their recently enhanced capabilities and taking into account the exhorbitant price the people would pay for those actions.


It was a very valid question regarding the topic, does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?


For those that didn't get it , the person in question was the head of Mossad and his comments reflect exactly those of the bloke that was head of Shin Bet.
Bit of a sticker when it comes to the usual lines of defence MH regularly trots out regarding the mid-east

lol
What commets exactly?

Thanks for complainant .... not every day i get contradicted(?) by chef of shin bet and Mossad.

What commets exactly

Halley or De Havilland?

he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.
Hows about a dozen examples of you somehow describing Isrealis as not understanding Israel and what it means to be in Israel?
Extreme revisionist zionists somehow becoming"liberals" perhaps
Maybe a dozen silly accusations of anti semitism, especialy good when you call Jewish people as somehow anti semites.

It does raise a few questions though regarding what was written that you apparently responded to(as in "to" not really to but sort of roughly not in the line but somewhere nowhere near).
1 did you realise what the person in question had said.
2 did you know who he was
3 did you have the faintest idea what he was talking about

Which all leads back to the topic of....
if the reason is bollox and the expected outcome is bollox..... what was the reason again?

[MH]

Go have another beer lol...

he doesn't know what he is talking about. perhaps he is naive, maybe he is a liberal idealist who doesn't understand Israels position, perhaps he just hates jews.
Hows about a dozen examples of you somehow describing Isrealis as not understanding Israel and what it means to be in Israel?
Extreme revisionist zionists somehow becoming"liberals" perhaps
Maybe a dozen silly accusations of anti semitism, especialy good when you call Jewish people as somehow anti semites.

????????WOW....uh did i say that or Meir Dagan?

You are totally messed up man - but fun.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

... does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?

No, but direct insults to other members does.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Whatsamatter is your usual line of bunkervision bull run into a brick wall on this example.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

It was a very valid question regarding the topic, does calling out "bunkervision" cross the line?

There have been a number of examples of name calling and exchanging of personal insults by more than one person on this thread already.

I have to draw the line in view of bad post reports and would appreciate it if people could disagree in a manner that doesn't contravene the forum rules.

If you feel you are being attacked simply ignore the poster and don't respond...better to report a post than to escalate the issue.

I thank all contributors in advance for their cooperation.

????????WOW....uh did i say that or Meir Dagan?

As said, there are dozens of example of you doing it.

If you feel you are being attacked simply ignore the poster and don't respond

Hey all I wanted was a comment on MHs' view of what the Mossad fella said about Bibis war drum rants?
After all a local view can sometimes be enlightening but MH seems rather averse to commenting on the "stupidest idea I have ever heard" angle of the topic

No, but direct insults to other members does.

But isn't what you quoted just calling out the bunkervision. After all it is realy no differnet from the everyday zombies over here still with their narrow fixed view even after 90 years.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

But isn't what you quoted just calling out the bunkervision. After all it is realy no differnet from the everyday zombies over here still with their narrow fixed view even after 90 years.

I sometimes wonder weather you are 9 or 90 years old...

stupidest idea I have ever heard

Well... he said much more than that.

As said, there are dozens of example of you doing it

Yeah sure....maybe its one of your imaginary friend on some other forum....or simply your skill i reading between the lines.
I really can't see a good reason why you bring this up in this thread...did i call anyone anti semite or nazi or something

Well... he said much more than that.

indeed he did, he also said it wouldn't work.

I really can't see a good reason why you bring this up in this thread...

It is to illustrate a pattern in your responses, much like some here get a red white and blue mist obscuring their vision and rationality when it is their nations policies involved.
That is why I always like to use Israeli sources when I know you you are going to try and take issue with the subject instead of actually addressing it

[soopaman2]

What is the reason for a war against Iran?

Requires only one word...

Israel.

[Oberon]

Ok Gents, at the risk of backseat moderating, shall we wrap this one up if we can't agree to disagree? Preferably before someone has to lock it.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

indeed he did, he also said it wouldn't work.

What would not work?

Originally Posted by Tribesman

indeed
It is to illustrate a pattern in your responses, much like some here get a red white and blue mist obscuring their vision and rationality when it is their nations policies involved.
That is why I always like to use Israeli sources when I know you you are going to try and take issue with the subject instead of actually addressing it

Lol...i still don't know what is the argument about...

All i have said in this thread are some reasons that i think Iran should not have nukes.
Some quote...

Dagan: An attack on Iran before you are exploring all other approaches is not the right way how to do it.

Stahl: If they're that rational as you suggest and that logical, then why can't you, Israel, and the world live with a nuclear Iran?

Dagan: In the Israeli case, they have said they want to destroy Israel.

He says one sign of Iran's logical thinking is how they cunningly stall through diplomacy.

Dagan: I think that the Iranians are masters at negotiation. They invented of what I call the "bazaar culture" of how we are negotiating.

Stahl: So if there are negotiations, how concerned would you be that the Europeans, for example, would say, "Ah. We're talking. Let's weaken the sanctions"?

Dagan: I have to admit that's a concern. Yes.

Stahl: People are going to want to lessen the tension so that the oil prices will go back down.

Dagan: Do you think that Iran armed with a nuclear capability is going to create stability in the region? They have an interest, a basic interest to raise the prices of oil, cause this is the most important source of income for Iran. If Iran will be armed with a nuclear capability, their ability to create instability in the region, and by this indirectly to increase the price of oil, that'd be much worse than it is now.

What is the reason for a war against Iran?

Requires only one word...

Israel.

Wouldn't that be good reason?



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[MH]

Ok Gents, at the risk of backseat moderating, shall we wrap this one up if we can't agree to disagree? Preferably before someone has to lock it.

Sorry but Tribesman's childishness and ignorance with conjunction with the default self importance sometimes make me chuckle.....don't take it too serious.
Sometimes cant resist to have a boxing match with him and see him trying to kick the balls.
Bunch of anti semites and Jumbuna is nazi ....lol

Wouldn't that be good reason?

No. If it was a good reason it would have a chance of a favourable outcome.