Are schools going too far?

[August]

I'll have to add my endorsement to mandatory uniforms. Even in adult education they are handy for instilling professionalism and good work habits.

We have a full length mirror in the lobby that has a sign next to it that says:

"Do you see the professional you are training to become?"

[mookiemookie]

As the product of a public elementary school system where uniforms weren't required and then a private high school where they were, I absolutely 100% support mandatory school uniforms. They instill a professional and businesslike atmosphere.

I don't buy this "freedom of expression" crap that the anti-uniformers argue. Dude, you're 12. What groundbreaking and vital personal expression does a 12 year old have to make? Kids are in school to learn, not make a fashion statement of their individuality. Besides, if they can't express themselves through their words and deeds and need clothes to do it, then they're turning out to be a shallow individual.

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by August

I'll have to add my endorsement to mandatory uniforms. Even in adult education they are handy for instilling professionalism and good work habits.

We have a full length mirror in the lobby that has a sign next to it that says:

"Do you see the professional you are training to become?"

I agree with you here but the wear of uniforms must also be implemented as part of an entire program uniforms alone I feel do not instill discipline.

Many people seem to forget that there a some very non professional organisations that wear a manner of uniform street gangs I see a uniform as way of showing that you belong to a group be it a school,an agency,the military,an institution(prison) not necessarily a sign of professionalism.

I think that grade schools should have something similar to a roll call in the military each morning ( done in the military at the start of each shift) one of the purpose of a roll call is to establish
discipline and command it establishes order and respect it is also a time to announce important information.In some nations like Japan they do this at school they also sing a song as a group before beginning class this is all done in one gathering not over an PA system.

Schooling should prepare a student with the fundamentals to allow them to be a productive member of society I think most American schools fail at this goal.

[August]

It seems we've concentrated on being individuals so much we forgot it's a team that usually gets the job done best.

[Stealhead]

I notice alot of people have bumper stickers or T-shirts that have the American flag on them and it says "United we stand" I think that is a poorly designed logo because they leave out the most important part "Divided we fall".

In modern times there are too many distractions from what is important more people got upset about Netflix(I could care less) raising its fees than anything else last year.

If you ask me the idea of banning any form of human contact and getting rid of any sport where you can loose is a very bad idea competition is a good thing
it makes people want to perform better.If a kid is lousy at playing a game then they will know that they tried and they can either put more effort into it or do something
else like play an instrument but you still have to put forth effort to be any good at playing the instrument and being on the debate team or what ever.

[U570]

Originally Posted by Stealhead

I notice alot of people have bumper stickers or T-shirts that have the American flag on them and it says "United we stand" I think that is a poorly designed logo because they leave out the most important part "Divided we fall".

In modern times there are too many distractions from what is important more people got upset about Netflix(I could care less) raising its fees than anything else last year.

If you ask me the idea of banning any form of human contact and getting rid of any sport where you can loose is a very bad idea competition is a good thing
it makes people want to perform better.If a kid is lousy at playing a game then they will know that they tried and they can either put more effort into it or do something
else like play an instrument but you still have to put forth effort to be any good at playing the instrument and being on the debate team or what ever.

I completely agree with you, the idea that so many people get upset about minor things like that is appalling, competition is great. I play soccer (not like the pros though) and I'm probably the most competitive; because I'm trying. I'm nowhere near brilliant at sport, but I am definitely better at music: I can play trumpet, keyboard, guitar, bass and I am sort of learning sax.

[Takeda Shingen]

Well now we're getting into a completely different problem. In today's environment of 'everyone gets a trophy', students are constantly told that they are all smart, important and that everything they do is wonderful. What we have fostered now is a generation of students that are incredibly self-assured and yet much less capable.

[Rockstar]

Schools will pride themselves on voting in homosexual prom queens and kings. But stop a young man from bringing in a date who just happenes to be a porn star to a prom?

One group likes same sex partners and thats promoted and tolerated. The other (the porn star) well, just likes it and probably lots of it and she's not allowed? Come on man where's the tolerance in todays society I'd rather see that porn star than a drag queen any day.