Unnarmed 17 year old shot dead "in self defence"

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by breadcatcher101

Was it racial?

Oh yeah.

If it had been a black guy shooting a white guy it would not have even made the news at the state level.

The DOJ, FBI, and everyone but the UN would not be involved.

no, but the KKK would beat and hang people like no tomorrow.

But don't think the cops are protecting Zimmerman due to racial reasons, they are doing it because of Florida's Bat S--t insane voters and laws. If they start cracking down on stand your ground the backlash will be huge but all the crazy paranoid people who love that law.

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

no, but the KKK would beat and hang people like no tomorrow.

Yeah maybe if this were the 1960's but everyone knows that such things would not stand today. One only has to look at the controversy that this one single murder has generated to see that. Why can't you?

[breadcatcher101]

Not the KKK of the '60's, just a black wanting to kill all the whites so that they can take over.

Nothing to see here, move along.

[Stealhead]

What was the point of that video looks someone losing control of themselves.

I have seen it happen before once during a roll call in the military this dude just flipped out after the top first shirt asked him a question he was not any form of trouble or anything he simply went Mau Mau much like this chick in this video did.They sent him out of the military after that.

I fail to see how the reaction of an irrationality behaving person has any relevance she most likely has a mental issue and most anything might set her off.You are showing a mentally unstable person displaying her reaction to something her irrational thinking mind rationalizes.You can see that every person in that room is more than likely thinking "Somebody needs some Valium."

Unless your point is that KKK members are nuts as well some surely are but most are more than likely not they just enjoy hating people.

[breadcatcher101]

Yeah, I'm sure she was just having a bad day. We all do.

She did mention to the policeman she was a member of this group:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/well...artin-shooter/

I suppose everyone needs a hobby.

[Stealhead]

Well if this woman has serious mental issues which it seems clear that she does and she of course thinks in an irrational manner and feels that white people are a threat to her even though most are obviously not.She most likely has felt more paranoid after all this discussion about the Sanford shooting which would obviously put her on edge even more (in her perception of the world) and the topic of conversation in the class obviously pushed her over the edge and she cracked perhaps because none of the other black students in the room agreed with what ever she said that was not shown on the film that the professor reacted to so when her "people" did not agree she lost all control.This is obviously a mental ill person in need of help.

More than likely she read about the New Black Milita on the internet.

Thier website by the looks of it seems really poorly made up and they are stupid enough to list their chain of command on one page.The site is also edited very poorly and
they have an HQ called The National Institute Center:hmmm :Oh by they way they also list their contact id anyone wants to have a little fun.

I am thinking this is a handful of idiots and the photo of the black women with the AK-47s you can see some women that are North African Arabs so it must have come from Libya I(the photo) bet because the now deceased Muammar Gaddafi had a brigade of black African male and female mercenaries to protect him.It is some small time bunch of idiots and is not even listed on the Southern Poverty Law centers site which lists most every hate group there is even very obscure ones.

Obviously they must be real if they made a statement but I suspect it is a handful of morons and well one mentally ill black college student.

[Aramike]

Good point. This idiot should never have been armed with a firearm if this is how he's going to use it. But I can't make that logical leap to banning all guns or enacting stricter gun control standards because one idiot used one wrong.

I hope that I didn't seem to be making that leap, either.

My whole perspective on gun control is simple: we should take reasonable steps to make it difficult for a known criminal to legally acquire firearms, but it needs to be EASIER for a known law-abiding citizen to own them.

[Aramike]

My opinion? The media is the most racist of them all, period. This would not be a national story if it was an example of white-on-white violence. But the fact is that the media just happened to notice the disparity between the skin color of the victim and the accused, and it became a major headline.

Honestly, one of the things about our nation that's made me feel the sickest is that, in our attempt to blur the differences of our ethnicities, we've done nothing more than amplify them.

i capitalized white to emphasize that people have mistaken him for a caucasian (if you must be politically correct)

whites, caucasians, meaning originating from european cultures and branching out.

One huge mistake after another
Did you understand what was written at all?
white means white which means white, just because you don't like the way it was used doesn't mean it was used the wrong way.
If some people make a mistake on both what white means and what caucasian means and how it forms their views then that can say something about them and it isn't a very nice thing.

Many people are saying that if it wasn't a white man and a black man or if the roles were reversed it wouldn't be a story.
That has some validity but the validity comes with the sad truth that the events are a big story because of the history of the nation and its everyday legacy.
Some people are very eager to claim the validity but completely reject the truth behind it.

Not the KKK of the '60's, just a black wanting to kill all the whites so that they can take over.

So for balance are you going top post a video of a crazy white supramacist or a crazy chicano with aztlan ambitions ?
Or do you actually have no point ?

[yubba]

Was watching ABC's good morning America, as they talking about this story, there was one interesting point, Trayvon laid in the morque for 2 days as a unclaimed John Doe, So that meant he was walking around at night in a hoody with no identification in a gated community, which is almost a crime in it's self and for the ones that don't get it, I meant not having Identification, most of the time I'm being sarcastic and write-ing in a 6th grade level so, I don't know what too tell you, and If You love what Obama is doing then I can't help you. All the gated communities I know of, don't have a 7 11 in the middle of them. Maybe Hispanics are the other white meat. Al not so Sharpton in Sanford to fan the flames of Hate.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Aramike

My opinion? The media is the most racist of them all, period. This would not be a national story if it was an example of white-on-white violence. But the fact is that the media just happened to notice the disparity between the skin color of the victim and the accused, and it became a major headline.

But it has to be emphasized because it's the whole point of the story. The kid was shot for being black in the wrong part of town, period. He wasn't shot for trying to burglarize something, he wasn't shot because he was holding a gun. He was shot because, in the words of the shooter, "these *****'s always get away" and he was a "*******g coon."

[Stealhead]

Originally Posted by yubba

Was watching ABC's good morning America, as they talking about this story, there was one interesting point, Trayvon laid in the morque for 2 days as a unclaimed John Doe, So that meant he was walking around at night in a hoody with no identification in a gated community, which is almost a crime in it's self and for the ones that don't get it, I meant not having Identification, most of the time I'm being sarcastic and write-ing in a 6th grade level so, I don't know what too tell you, and If You love what Obama is doing then I can't help you. All the gated communities I know of, don't have a 7 11 in the middle of them. Maybe Hispanics are the other white meat. Al not so Sharpton in Sanford to fan the flames of Hate.

So wearing a hoodie(when it is raining) and walking back home(he was visiting and staying at the home of someone living in the gated community) and not having ID(something one has no way of determining unless they lawfully ask a person for ID) gives someone the right to shoot you.No where has it ever been stated that the 7/11 was inside the gated community.I also live in Florida and my job has me driving all over the state and I have seen plenty of gated communities that have 7/11 store or other type establishments with in walking distance.You put Identification in caps yet you still tie in that he had a hoodie hood on his head no law is in place making wearing a hood illegal.I saw a woman jogging the other day with her hoodie hood on I should have called the police she must have been up to something wearing that hood the devil makes bad people wear hoods.

I am not 100% sure but I do not think that a minor is required by law in the state of Florida to have carry Id on them at all times either they of course would have to have a Drivers license while operating a motor vehicle but on foot as a pedestrian I am pretty sure minors are not obliged by law to have ID on them.It is the law for any person to properly ID themselves if asked by a LE officer that means that if you have no Id you can not give a false name or other wise attempt to hide your true identity.The only law he could have violated is the curfew law(if one is in place in Sanford) and those are set at latter times than 7pm.And 7pm is night the pitch black of night in Florida this time of year.But the devil makes people do bad things in hoodie hoods at night right?

[mookiemookie]

Without going into the gun law portion of it, maybe this implementation of the "stand your ground" law needs to be looked at. There's something really broken if you can be walking down the street, feel threatened at someone else just minding their business and then be perfectly justified in blowing them away for no other reason than your stupid "Spidey sense" was tingling.

[August]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Without going into the gun law portion of it, maybe this implementation of the "stand your ground" law needs to be looked at. There's something really broken if you can be walking down the street, feel threatened at someone else just minding their business and then be perfectly justified in blowing them away for no other reason than your stupid "Spidey sense" was tingling.

From everything I've read about the incident so far says the guy has no case for being in reasonable fear for his life so a self defense law should not apply to this guy.

After all you don't look at the right to free speech because someone claims it after yelling fire in a crowded theater.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Aramike

IMy whole perspective on gun control is simple: we should take reasonable steps to make it difficult for a known criminal to legally acquire firearms, but it needs to be EASIER for a known law-abiding citizen to own them.

And excellent point, and one I share. The problem in this case is the seemingly law-abiding citizen who really shouldn't have a gun. How do we weed them out?