Which to buy?

Herr-Berbunch · 03-18-12, 12:35 PM

For a joystick I've recently got a T.16000, plenty of buttons to set up but nowhere near like an x52 pro. Response is incredible using Hall sensors. Better for a beginner and less desk space than a full HOTAS set -up.

Now the only excuses I have for crap flying is my own skill. 1946 is great, just get a mod for it like UP3 or DBW or, like those around this site who fly together, HSFX5.

yubba · 03-18-12, 11:06 PM

Look for saitek brand I think they should have something in your budget I have an old saitek st 220 digital 20 dollars us over 10 years old use-ing it right now on 1946 playing in hyperlobby never been shot down so much except that nite at the bar but that's another story.

Stealhead · 03-19-12, 08:57 AM

Go to Amazon.com they have tons of sticks in the $20.00 range the one yubba mentioned is $10.00 used over there and there are other models and brands new for between 20 and 30 dollars.As long as you don't get overly vigorous a stick should last a long time.That sounded awkward.

Just remember when you want to upgrade to a stick and HOTAS you get what you pay for some of the cheaper ones are garbage.

the_tyrant · 03-19-12, 09:14 AM

Microsoft sidewinder user here

It is cheap, and it works (got mine at a garage sale for 1$)

Hottentot · 03-19-12, 10:19 AM

It also depends on how you like to play. For single player, I'd go for Crusader Kings (haven't yet played the sequel, but based on the first title.) IL-2 is an awesome flight sim, but the single player is not its strong point, even with 3rd party programs like Lowengrin's Dynamic Campaign Generator (which I also highly recommend if you go for IL-2.) The AI can be frustrating to say the least.

HunterICX · 03-19-12, 10:49 AM

If you are someone that likes to play a lot of Single Player get Crusader Kings II got it myself and never played the prequel but am having a blast, if you never played a Paradox game before it takes a while to get the hang of how it works and how you play it but once you do it has to offer a lot of replay value.

If you're into Multiplayer you can't go wrong with IL2 1946 with the reasons stated above by the others.
Single player IL2 is perhaps fun for the firts couple of days but the stock campaigns are dull, Lowen Grins DCG fixes it a bit but tends to become really repeative after a while.
The AI is not really something to praise since it's slightly above average...it's basically something to shoot down in the game but not to expect to play according the laws of the game's flightmodels as it barely affects them regarding speed, climbrates and if you think you can outrun them with historical faster aircraft then think again he'll be tailing you.

HunterICX

Stealhead · 03-19-12, 02:30 PM

I hardly ever play IL-2 multi player to be honest.If you are interested in WWII aviation it is quite good single player not perfect but it works.

I would say go with what you are most interested in.If it is Medieval history then buy Crusaders Kings II if you are more interested in WWII history/aviation then buy IL-2.

03-18-12, 12:35 PM	#1
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	For a joystick I've recently got a T.16000, plenty of buttons to set up but nowhere near like an x52 pro. Response is incredible using Hall sensors. Better for a beginner and less desk space than a full HOTAS set -up. Now the only excuses I have for crap flying is my own skill. 1946 is great, just get a mod for it like UP3 or DBW or, like those around this site who fly together, HSFX5. __________________

03-19-12, 09:14 AM	#4
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	Microsoft sidewinder user here It is cheap, and it works (got mine at a garage sale for 1$) __________________ My own open source project on Sourceforge OTP.net KGB grade encryption for the rest of us

03-19-12, 10:19 AM	#5
Hottentot Sea Lord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: My private socialist utopia of Finland Posts: 1,918 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	It also depends on how you like to play. For single player, I'd go for Crusader Kings (haven't yet played the sequel, but based on the first title.) IL-2 is an awesome flight sim, but the single player is not its strong point, even with 3rd party programs like Lowengrin's Dynamic Campaign Generator (which I also highly recommend if you go for IL-2.) The AI can be frustrating to say the least. __________________ Хотели как лучше, а получилось как всегда.

03-19-12, 10:49 AM	#6
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	If you are someone that likes to play a lot of Single Player get Crusader Kings II got it myself and never played the prequel but am having a blast, if you never played a Paradox game before it takes a while to get the hang of how it works and how you play it but once you do it has to offer a lot of replay value. If you're into Multiplayer you can't go wrong with IL2 1946 with the reasons stated above by the others. Single player IL2 is perhaps fun for the firts couple of days but the stock campaigns are dull, Lowen Grins DCG fixes it a bit but tends to become really repeative after a while. The AI is not really something to praise since it's slightly above average...it's basically something to shoot down in the game but not to expect to play according the laws of the game's flightmodels as it barely affects them regarding speed, climbrates and if you think you can outrun them with historical faster aircraft then think again he'll be tailing you. HunterICX __________________ Last edited by HunterICX; 03-19-12 at 11:01 AM.

03-18-12, 11:06 PM	#2
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	Look for saitek brand I think they should have something in your budget I have an old saitek st 220 digital 20 dollars us over 10 years old use-ing it right now on 1946 playing in hyperlobby never been shot down so much except that nite at the bar but that's another story.

03-19-12, 08:57 AM	#3
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Go to Amazon.com they have tons of sticks in the $20.00 range the one yubba mentioned is $10.00 used over there and there are other models and brands new for between 20 and 30 dollars.As long as you don't get overly vigorous a stick should last a long time.That sounded awkward. Just remember when you want to upgrade to a stick and HOTAS you get what you pay for some of the cheaper ones are garbage.

03-19-12, 02:30 PM	#7
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I hardly ever play IL-2 multi player to be honest.If you are interested in WWII aviation it is quite good single player not perfect but it works. I would say go with what you are most interested in.If it is Medieval history then buy Crusaders Kings II if you are more interested in WWII history/aviation then buy IL-2.